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Apartheid in Palestine is OK because it's Jewish apartheid? This is the reasoning that's being shoved down our collective throats.
Uprooted Palestinians are at the heart of the conflict in the M.E Palestinians uprooted by force of arms. Yet faced immense difficulties have survived, kept alive their history and culture, passed keys of family homes in occupied Palestine from one generation to the next.
November 22, 2008 at 8:32 am (Associate Post, Gaza, Intifada, Israel, Palestine)
Israel’s planned operation to rescue Shalit could spark a new Intifada, writes Khalid Amayreh
There is a growing impression among observers in Palestine-Israel that Israel may be preparing a “rescue operation” to free Gilad Shalit, the Israeli occupation army soldier who was taken prisoner in Gaza by Palestinian fighters more than two years ago.
Israeli intelligence services claim they know the whereabouts of Shalit, specifically the Gaza street where he is being held. However, serious observers here doubt the credibility of these claims, arguing that Israel would have carried out a rescue operation a long time ago had the Israeli intelligence known Shalit’s place of detention.
The rescue operation scenario is described by some Israeli political analysts as “generally politically safe” if the operation ends successfully. Needless to say, “successfully” here means accomplishing the mission of liberating Shalit and bringing him back to Israel alive.
The Israeli intelligence services have been hunting for very conceivable piece of information that would enable Israel to locate Shalit’s place of captivity. This week, the Israeli press, quoting anonymous sources, reported that the Shin Beth was offering potential Palestinian informers the sum of $10,000 in return for providing credible and authentic information that would lead to the liberation of Shalit from Hamas’s custody.
However, Palestinian officials scoffed at the latest Israeli feat, calling it “a reflection of frustration and despair”. Some Israeli security services, relying on information extracted from Gazans rounded up during the repeated Israeli incursions into the Gaza Strip prior to the Egyptian-mediated ceasefire with Hamas, have pointed out that powerful bombs were planted in the vicinity of the building where Shalit is thought to be held. This implies that any prospective rescue operation to free Shalit is expected to end in failure.
There are certain indications that the current transitional government in Israel may well be willing to carry out a rescue operation regardless of the consequences. The reason for this is linked to the upcoming Israeli elections and the end of the Olmert government’s term in office.
The Kadima Party and its erstwhile junior coalition partner, the Labour Party, headed by Defence Minister Ehud Barak, realise that with Shalit remaining in captivity in Gaza, Likud leader Benyamin Netanyahu is likely to put them on the defensive and use the issue as an effective propaganda tool in his election campaign.
Hence, a successful or even partly successful rescue operation would serve as a spectacular publicity booster for both the new Kadima leader Tzipi Livni and Ehud Barak, the man who would be directly responsible for ordering and overseeing the operation.
Nonetheless, while a decision to carry out an operation can be taken anytime, assuming that Israel does possess sufficient intelligence information to ensure a successful outcome, the Israeli government would have to seriously consider the political and other ramifications of failure since the chances of failure equal if not exceed the chances of success.
In this case, “whoever takes the decision to carry out an operation will have to bear the full consequences,” says Ahmed Youssef, advisor to Ismail Haniyeh, the prime minister of the Hamas-led government in Gaza. “The Israelis have left no stone unturned in a desperate effort to discover Shalit’s whereabouts, but to no avail.”
However, some analysts argue that the Israeli army might very well opt to assassinate or abduct a number of important Hamas figures, including high-ranking officials in order to compensate for the failure of the operation and also to mollify Israeli public opinion. “They [the Israeli army] would abduct ministers and lawmakers and humiliate them publicly in order to compensate the Israeli public for the possible death of Shalit and failure of the operation,” one Israeli journalist intimated to Al-Ahram Weekly.
Israel had already abducted hundreds of Hamas’s members, including some 40 lawmakers, government ministers and other elected officials, in a failed attempt to bully Hamas to release Shalit. Israel had also carried out numerous deadly and devastating incursions all over the Gaza Strip to pressure the Islamist government to free Shalit, prompting Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas to complain that the Palestinian people have already paid too much for Shalit.
More to the point, the Israeli government is giving the impression that it has nearly exhausted all political efforts to get Shalit released, including exerting pressure on the Egyptian government to in turn pressure Hamas to show “flexibility” and accept a more modest number of Palestinian prisoners who would be freed in exchange for Shalit.
However, the Egyptian leadership has refused to succumb to Israeli pressure. A few weeks ago, President Hosni Mubarak was quoted as telling an Israeli reporter that Egypt expected Israel to address Hamas’s demands with regard to the Palestinian prisoners. Hamas interpreted Mubarak’s remarks as implying that Egypt is rejecting Israeli efforts to instigate President Mubarak against Hamas.
Apart from a possible rescue operation, Israel has two alternatives vis-à-vis the Shalit affair. First, reaching a swap deal with Hamas through Egyptian mediation in which case the Israeli government would have to release most or all Palestinian prisoners Hamas is insisting must be freed before Shalit can be returned to Israel.
This is the view of Saleh Al-Naami, an Israeli affairs correspondent based in the Gaza Strip. “I think Mr Olmert is in a better position now to agree to a swap that would more or less meet Hamas’s conditions without having to pay a devastating political price,” Al-Naami told the Weekly. “Olmert has nothing to lose; he is leaving for good, and he must be contemplating culminating his rule with something he would be remembered for.”
However, this scenario is unlikely to materialise, at least before the Israeli elections slated to take place on 10 February. Indeed, releasing hundreds of Palestinian prisoners, along with the concomitant spectacular celebrations, would be a serious public relations liability for the present government, which would translate into a significant PR asset for the right-wing camp, especially for Likud leader Benyamin Netanyahu.
In addition, releasing a large number of Palestinian prisoners would undoubtedly be a great booster for Hamas which could undermine PA President Mahmoud Abbas’s public standing, especially in light of the clear failure of the American-backed Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
Hence, it is nearly out of question that Olmert would take such a decision even if Hamas decided to relent on the number and quality of the prisoners Hamas wants to see released. Moreover, the stiff opposition by the Shin Beth, Israel’s chief domestic security agency, to releasing a large number of Palestinian detainees is likely to militate against this scenario.
A third and plausible possibility is that the current Israeli government will simply leave the matter for the next Israeli government to resolve. In this case, the next Israeli prime minister, who many pundits assume will be Netanyahu, will have to resolve the issue, but under less public and political pressure in comparison to the current Kadima-led government.
However, even hawkish Netanyahu would have to consider the consequences and ramifications of a rescue operation, especially with President-elect Barack Obama in the White House. “The scene of murdered and mutilated children in the streets of Gaza wouldn’t be the right thing to begin healthy relations between Netanyahu and Obama,” one Israeli journalist said.
Furthermore, a military operation targeting Hamas would certainly spark off an all-out confrontation with Hamas Israel and Egypt as well.
In 1997, Netanyahu ordered the assassination of Hamas’s politburo chief Khaled Meshaal in Amman. The assassination attempt failed and the two would-be Mossad assassins were captured by Jordanian security. However, the operation prompted then King Hussein of Jordan to demand that Israel release from custody Hamas’s founder and spiritual leader Sheikh Ahmed Yassin. Yassin was released and allowed to return to Gaza, contributing to the growing influence of Hamas. He was eventually murdered by Israel on 22 March 2004.
The kingdom of the Khazars vanished from the map of the world many centuries ago. Today many people have never even heard of it yet in its day the Khazar kingdom [Khazaria] was a very major power, indeed holding sway over a large empire of subjugated peoples. It had to be reckoned with by the two neighboring superpowers of that day. To the south and west of Khazaria the Byzantine Empire was in full flower with its Eastern Orthodox Christian civilization. To the south-east, the Khazar kingdom bordered on the expanding Moslem Empire of the Arab Caliphs.
The Khazar’s influenced the histories of both of these empires but, far more importantly, the Khazar kingdom occupied what was later to become a southern portion of Russia between the Black and Caspian Seas.
As a result, the historical destinies of the Russians and the Khazars became intertwined in ways which have persisted down to the present day.
In case you have never heard of the Khazars, I think I should mention where you can look to learn more about them. In 1976 a book about the Khazars was published by the British writer [a Jew] Arthur Koestler. The book is titled, The thirteenth tribe - The Khazar Empire And Its Heritage. The American publisher is Random House, New York.
History records that the Khazars were derived from a mixture of Mongols, Turks and Fins. As early as the 3rd Century AD, they were identifiable in constant warfare in the areas of Persia and Armenia. Later, in the 5th Century, the Khazars were among the devastating hordes of Attila, the Hun.
Around 550 AD, the nomadic Khazars began settling themselves in the area around the northern Caucasus between the Black and Caspian Seas. The Khazar’s capital of Itil was established at the mouth of the Volga River where it emptied into the Caspian Sea, in order to control the river traffic. The Khazars then exacted a toll of 10% on any and all cargo which passed Itil on the river. Those who refused were attacked and slaughtered.
With the kingdom finally established in the Caucasus, the Khazars gradually began to create an empire of subjugated peoples. More and more Slavonic tribes, who were peaceful compared with the Khazars, were attacked and conquered. They became part of the Khazar Empire, required to pay tribute continually to the Khazar Kingdom. Tribute by conquered peoples has always been a feature of empires, of course, but not in the fashion of the Khazars. The so-called great empires of the world always gave something in return for the taxes they extracted. Rome, for example, made citizens of those they conquered; and in return for the taxes they levied, they brought civilization, order and protection against attack from would-be invaders.
But not so in the Khazar Empire. The people who were subject to the Khazars received only one thing in return for their payments of tribute, and that was a shaky promise - the Khazars would refrain from further attacks and pillage so long as the tributes were paid. Therefore, the subjects of the Khazar Empire were nothing more than the victims of the giant protection racket.
The Khazar overlords were therefore resented universally and bitterly throughout their domain, but they were also feared because of the merciless way in which they dealt with anyone who stood up to them. And so the Khazar Empire expanded northward to Kiev [Kiev now the capital of UKRAINE], on the Dnieper River. It is Ukraine’s largest city and a major port. One of the oldest European cities, it was a commercial centre as early as the 5th century, and became the capital of KIEVAN RUSSIA in the 9th century and westward to include Magyars, the ancestors of modern Hungary.
In about 740AD, a stunning event took place. The Khazars had been under continual pressure from their Byzantine and Moslem neighbours to adopt Christianity or Islam, but the Khazar ruler, called the Khakan, had heard of a third religion called JUDAISM. Apparently for political reasons of independence, the Khakan announced that the Khazars were adopting Judaism as their religion. Overnight an entirely new group of people, the warlike Khazars, suddenly proclaimed themselves Jews - adoptive Jews. The Khazar kingdom began to be described as the ’Kingdom of the Jews’ by historians of the day. Succeeding Khazar rulers took Jewish names, and during the late 9th Century the Khazar kingdom became a haven for Jews of other lands.
Meanwhile the brutal Khazar domination over other peoples continued unchanged. But then a new factor appeared on the scene. During the 8th Century there came coursing down the great rivers - the Dnieper, the Don and the Volga - the eastern branch of the Vikings. They were known as the VARANCIANS, or the RUS. Like other Vikings, the Rus were bold adventurers and fierce fighters, but when they tangled with the Khazars, the Rus often ended up paying tribute like everyone else.
In 862 a Rus leader named Rurik founded the city of Novgorod, and the RUSSIAN NATION was born. The Rus Vikings settled among the Slavonic tribes under Khazar domination, and the struggle between Vikings and Khazars changed in character. It became a struggle by the emerging nation of Russia for independence from Khazar oppression.
Over a century after the founding of Russia’s first city, another momentous event took place. Russia’s leader, Prince Vladimir of Kiev, accepted baptism as a Christian in the year 989. He actively promoted Christianity in Russia, and his memory is revered by Russians today as ’Saint Vladimir;’ and so a thousand years ago Russia’s tradition as a Christian nation began.
Vladimir’s conversion also brought Russia into alliance with Byzantium. The Byzantine rulers had always feared the Khazars, and the Russians were still struggling to free themselves. And so in the year 1016, combined Russian and Byzantine forces attacked the Khazar kingdom. The Khazar kingdom was shattered, and the kingdom of the Khazars fell into decline. Eventually most of the Khazar Jews migrated to other areas. Many of them wound up in eastern Europe, where they mingled and intermarried with other Jews. Like the Semitic Jews some 1000 years earlier, the Khazar Jews became dispersed.
The kingdom of the Khazars was no more.
As the Khazars moved and lived amongst the Jewish people, the Khazar Jews passed on a distinct heritage from generation to generation. One element of the Khazar Jew heritage is a militant form of ZIONISM. In the view of Khazar Jews, the land occupied by ancient Israel is to be retaken - not by a miracle but by armed force. This is what is meant by Zionism today, and this is the force that created the nation which calls itself Israel today.
The other major ingredient of the Khazar Jew heritage is hatred for Christianity, and for the Russian people as the champions of the Christian faith. Christianity is viewed as the force that caused the ancient so-called Kingdom of the Jews; the Khazar kingdom [Khazarial] to collapse. Having dominated much of what is present-day Russia, the Khazar Jews still want to re-establish that domination - and for a millennium they have been trying continually to do just that.
In 1917 the Khazar Jews passed a major milestone towards the creation of their own state in Palestine. The same year they also created the Bolshevik Revolution in Russia. There followed a Christian holocaust, the likes of which the world has never seen. The Khazar Jews were once again in control of Russia after more than 900 years, and they set about the task of destroying the Russian Christians - over 100-million of them, at the same time over 20-million religious Jews also died at the hands of the Khazar Jews. This is what the Russian Christians were up against in their 60-year struggle to overthrow the atheistic Bolsheviks, but they finally succeeded in their overthrow program, and now the 1000-year-old war between the Russian Christians and the Khazar Jews is reaching a climax.
On August 19, 1979, Rabbi Joel Teitelbaum died in New York. He died in the morning, and was buried the same afternoon. Very short notice, and yet 100,000 Jewish men arrived in time for the funeral. It is hard to imagine how many more hundreds of thousands could not arrive on such short notice. A month later, September 18, his followers placed a memorial tribute by way of a paid advertisement in the "New York Times," and clearly it spoke for many Jews. Among other things it said, quote:
"He was the undisputed leader of all Jews everywhere who had not been infected by Zionism;" and also, quote:
"With a courage all too rare in our time, he called the Zionist state ’a work of Satan, a sacrilege, and a blasphemy.’ The shedding of blood for the sake of the Zionist state was abhorrent to him."
These words were spoken by Orthodox Jews mourning for their fallen leader. And the new Christian rulers of Russia would agree, for they too regard the Zionist state of Israel as a counterfeit, a cruel and dangerous hoax for Christians and Jews alike. The Khazar state called the "Kingdom of the Jews" [Khazaria] a thousand years ago was a parasite, living on the tribute from conquered peoples. Likewise today, Israel depends for its survival on a never-ending flow of support from outside. Left unchecked, the Russians believe that the Khazar Jews will destroy Christianity by means of Zionism; so Russia’s Christian rulers are on the offensive against their enemies of a thousand years - the Khazars.
We Americans who call ourselves Christians have not cared enough to open our eyes to try to save our own country, or to defend our faith. So our land has become the battle-ground of the Christian Russians and their deadly enemies - the Bolsheviks and the Zionists. And like it or not we are caught up in this all-out war.
Self-deceivers too: "The report added that Israel is seeking to complete the move in a way that would make it difficult for Hezbollah to claim the pullout as a victory
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHABut what a bunch of morons!Everybody knows that Hizbollah WON!!!
Contributed by Lucia
Israel mulls pullback from controversial border village
www.chinaview.cn
2008-11-20 04:26:50 Print
JERUSALEM, Nov. 19 (Xinhua) -- Israel has decided to start negotiations with the United Nations over a withdrawal from the northern part of a village spanning the Israel-Lebanon border, local daily Ha'aretz reported Wednesday.
The village of Ghajar went under dispute immediately after Israel withdrew from Lebanon in 2000. Lebanon and its Shiite militant Hezbollah movement have demanded the Jewish state to pullback from the northern half of the village, while Israel have refused to do so for security concerns.
Following consultations with Defense Minister Ehud Barak, Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni and other senior officials, caretaker Prime Minister Ehud Olmert on Wednesday gave his nod to kick off the talks with the United Nations Interim Forces in Lebanon (UNIFIL).
The goal of the negotiations, Israeli officials were quoted as saying, is to ensure that any agreement must take Israel's security concerns into account, and must include working guidelines for cooperation between Israeli forces and the UNIFIL, without which Israel will not pull back.
The report added that Israel is seeking to complete the move in a way that would make it difficult for Hezbollah to claim the pullout as a victory, with one option being to sign a three-way agreement with the UN and Lebanon.
The Jews who belonged the region lived with other Arabs in peace for 13 centuries, until eveil Zinism turned Arab Brothers into ememies., Genetically it has proven that Arab Jews and Muslims are Brothers,
Arab Jews still hold their arbic culture, Naeim Giladi, stated "born in Iraq, my culture still Iraqi Arabic, my religion Jewish, my citizenship American."
The Jewish Golden Age was created by Muslims, who were from the historical point of view better to Jews than Christians" Who in their holly wars committed massacres against both muslims and jews in Spain and in ME during the cruasde campain..
The fact of Muslems /arabs cleanhands from the Jewish blood is admitted by the Ben Gorion the founder of Israel who said: "There has been Anti - Semitism, the Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing: we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?" Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.
War criminal Barak got the carraige to Admit that he slolen our Land , Nobody dare to call him an anti-semite, or a self-hating (as Zionists call Jews who dare to critisize Isarael such as Norman Finkelstein) Jew for telling the truth,
What expulsion Zionists are talking about, Arab Jews, were expelled from spain, together with Arab Muslims.. Arab Jews and arab Muslims were expelled from Jeruzalim by Crusadors, and Both reutned to Jerusalim with Sallahideen...
Till now Arab Jews live in peace in Moroco. They are the most powerfull Politically and Ecconomically.
It is Europe who Expelled of khazari Jews while Moslem Turkey rescued of over 100,000 European Jews in the Holocaust and it is Albanian Muslims who protected Jews in the Holocaust while Zionist movement were colabrating with Nazi...
This is not propaganda, it is a fact admitted not only by non-Zionist jews, but by the Zionist Leadors and pioneers. Vladimir Jabotinsky the founder of Revisionist Zionism (Likud party roots) said: "In working for Palestine, I would even ally myself with the devil" in responding to condemnation for his alliance with Ukranian pogromist Petlyura.
"Vladimir Jabotinsky Despite his alliance with Ukranian pogromist Petlyura, it wasn't Jabotinsky who perpetrated the worst alliance with the Nazis, but the Labor Zionists: Ben-Gurion and Weizmann. In 1933 a world boycott German goods spontaneously emerged. Had this boycott been supported by all Jews, Zionists and non-Zionists, some believe that the German economy would have cracked and Hitler toppled. Moreover it is the Labor Zionist "transfer" (ha'avara) agreements with the Nazis, that led to many trade agreements that led to failure of the world boycott against the Nazis. Jabotnisky opposed the transfer agreement, and wanted to champion the boycott. However, during WWII, his heirs (e.g. Begin, Stern, Shamir) attempted their own alliance with the Nazis against the British who were occupying Palestine at the time. "(Paraphrased from "The Wrath of Jonah" by Rosemary and Herman Ruether, 1989). This information can also be found in Brenner's Zionism in the Age of the Dictators; 1983.
"The saving of the Jews in Europe did not figure at the head of the list of priorities of the ruling class. It was the foundation of the State which was primordial in their eyes."
-- Tom Segev. "Le septième million" (the Seventh Million) Ed. Liana Levi, Paris, 1993, p.539"
In 1941, Yitzhak Shamir committed:
"an unforgivable crime from the moral point of view: he preached an alliance with Hitler, with Nazi Germany, against Great Britain."
-- Bar Zohar "Le prophète armé: Ben Gourion." (Fayard. Paris 1966, p.99.)
If if it's considered a crime, Yitzhak Shamir should have been tried in Normberg, not elected to be the leader od Likud, amd a PN in Israel..
Ben Gurion hited tho that fact by saying "If I knew that it was possible to save all the children of Germany by transporting them to England, and only half by transferring them to the Land of Israel, I would choose the latter, for before us lies not only the numbers of these children but the historical reckoning of the people of Israel."
-- Ben-Gurion (Quoted on pp 855-56 in Shabtai Teveth's Ben-Gurion in a slightly different translation).
He (the first Israeli Prime Minister) admitted: "If I were an Arab leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that interest them? Our God is not theirs."
The Quote relects besides the courage to admit the fact that palestine was stolen, it relectet how an athiest zionist highjacked "Cod" to justify their crime..
The history is repeating itself, The Zionist are now not collabrating with the American New Nazion, against the whole world, thus endagering the Jews all over the the world. Sharon, immitated the Zionist leader of 1930's and 40's saying: “The best solution to anti-Semitism is immigration to Israel. It is the only place on Earth where Jews can live as Jews.” Jews worldwide started feeling the heat, instead of blaming Evil Zionism placing Jews in danger worldwide, thy are crying Holocaust... Holocaust
UprootedI've seen all this Jew propaganda before and simply repeating it doesn't make it become reality. The truth is that the Arab armies never even arrived on the scene until the Jews had already destroyed over 400 Arab villages and displaced a million people.
The proof of the pudding , as we say here, is that the Arab armies never even entered territory that legally belonged to Jews, in other words proof that the Jews had already attacked before their arrival.
You Jews seem to have increasing difficulty getting your lies believed by anyone
It isn't Jew anything.
Arabs admitted it.
The Arabs DID move into what was supposed to be Jewish areas- the Egyptians in the Negev, The Syrians and Lebanese in the Galilee, and the (Jordanian) Arab Legion as well.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/3f/1948_arab_israeli_war_-_May15-June10.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7d/1948_arab_israeli_war_-_Oct.jpg
They chose war. They lost. Some fled. Some didn't.
They chose war instead of a state and ended upwith nothing.
Oh well. I love a happy ending.
Rubbish. as I've already made clear, the Arab armies responded to jew terrorism, land grabbing , destruction and murder.
Rubbish. The Jews accepted UN 181.
The Arabs violently rejected it.
They went to war- attacking Israel on all 4 fronts- and they lost.
Some fled. Those who didn't have more rights and freedoms as Israeli citizens than Arabs do in their own countries.
Ironic, eh?
Again, to quote the Arabs who were at Deir Yassin:
11:12 AM, November 18, 2008
Yes right, when have the Jews ever obeyed an UN Resolution? They may have verbally accepted it but their actions speak otherwise.
You're very funny.
The ARABS chose war.
And claimed that the UN had no authority to issue UN 181. Now they're trying to hide behind the same UN.
You're like the guy who murders his parents and then cries for mercy because after all, he's an orphan.
Pathetic.
Jew watch my lips. Your trolling and lie repeating is tiresome. For a while you had a slight amusement value but you had better call it a day now or I will simply delete your crap and ban you from making further entries. Be a good child and toddle off before I totally lose my patience.
You are more than welcome to pop along tomorrow with some more jokes
Why Michael ?
It,s amusing to hear some twisty chants every now and then.
They are doing that everywhere and trying to re-write History of their own, but who is listening?
Some funny Zionist said that Egyptians have occupied Israeli Saini in 1973 !!! aren,t they fun?
Why? because it was getting late here in the UK and I had visions of this blog being filled by porn come the morning. I think we all have to realise that you can discuss facts with these Jews until you are blue in the face, they are never going to admit the truth whatever evidence is presented to them. Frankly on my discussion board I've already taken to banning any Israeli IP address as soon as it becomes apparent. They can hardly complain anyway, they've tried unsuccessfully to wipe out the truth for 60 years or more.
I've opened the door again to this troll in any case.
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