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Sunday, 5 September 2010

DesertPoison: PALESTINE BETRAYED BY ITS OWN

Segregating Desert Poison from Desert honey

Two days ago I highlighted the reaction of the Hasbara outlet "Desertpeace" towards killing four settlers near Kiryat Arbai

"Murder is murder!

Killing of civilians is NOT resistance!!

Killing of settlers living illegally on Palestinian soil will not end settlement activity!!!"

"Desert Peace" claimed "Whoever that group might be, they DO NOT speak or act on behalf of the Palestinian people. Only Israel wants the ‘Peace Process’ to fail, only zionism itself benefits from such actions.

DesertPeace condemns this action. This is NOT RESISTANCE and is definitely NOT the road to a just and lasting peace."

Today visiting that Hasbara outlet I found that Our "Cousins" are still shocked with the "Madness" of angry Hamas "terrorists" who killed four "innocent peaceful Israeli civilians" of the Tribe. "There are positive ways to vent" their "anger in ways that will benefit the entire nation", they claimed "The murder of Israeli civilians only serves the interests of the Israelis"

According to "Cousins" Neither the 62 years Nakba, nor the 44 years Gaza and West Bank occupation "that has no signs of abating, are good reasons to murder four people in cold blood?"

Our "dear cousins", though in their "right mind knows that the present round of Direct ‘Peace Talks’ is doomed to failure" because "the parties involved in these talks represent the same points of view…. that of Israel." they failed to specify the so-called positive ways that will benefit the enire Nation??

Which Nation they are talking about?

Is it the Palestinian Nation, or the "Jewish nation"??

Let us check.

Our Cousin David Samel believes that "equality is inevitable, both morally and historically, but the time it takes to arrive at that resolution is dependent in large part on worldwide opinion. Hamas has just done its best to postpone that outcome."

So blame the worldwide opinion, and blame Hamas for postponing the outcome, and don't blame the "innocent" settlers.

As Oslo collapsed and as "The Jews of Israel aren’t going anywhere. They are there to stay," Hamas should wait one milion years until our cousins decide " whether they will insist on maintaining a cruel and unjust system in which they dominate and control, and dispossess and occasionally kill, the indigenous Palestinian population, or whether they accept true equality."

"The Washington peace conference excludes any recognition of Hamas, principally because it has blood on its hands –– a tiny percentage of the blood on Israel’s hands." Read it again TINY percentage of the blood on Israel’s hands.

Hamas is excluded because it has blood on its hands, not because Hamas refuse to sell Palestinian rights.

As Hamas couldn’t wait another 20 years until the “peace talks” collapse under its own weight and has "decided to remind" its "cousins" "all of its vitality by executing four settlers. .... and claimed that the attack was “a natural response to the crimes of the Israeli occupation and its settlers” and demonstrates that the “armed Palestinian resistance is present in the West Bank despite the war to uproot it.”, Palestinians has to wait two million years because "Hamas has placed its own murderous predisposition front and center, ...Hamas’s outrage seems doomed to backfire ... And, if Israel reacts in its usual bloodthirsty and arbitrary fashion, innocent Palestinians, whose only offense is their ethnicity, will die."

Now lets see the Desertpeace poison mixed with some honey

PALESTINE BETRAYED BY ITS OWN

September 2, 2010 at 11:41


'All the world's a stage,
And all the men and women merely players'....
but the Palestinians are merely stage hands....
Image by Benjamin Heine


Anyone in his right mind knows that the present round of Direct ‘Peace Talks’ is doomed to failure. Anyone with an open mind can see that the parties involved in these talks represent the same points of view…. that of Israel.

Mahmoud Abbas represents the Palestinian people as much as Sarah Palin represents the Americans. Both are losers, both will remain as such.
Palestinians are angry, and justifiably so. The leaders they elected go unrecognised by Israel and the West, in fact also by those among themselves that were not elected. Inner strife between the factions gave Israel the perfect excuse to divide the nation even further than it was by creating two entities, the West Bank and Gaza….. BOTH under Israeli control despite the elections. Shortly after this division, when the Jewish settlers were removed from the Strip, followed by the Israeli backed factions ’safely’ removed to the West Bank, the destruction of Gaza began by the Israelis, the siege, the blockade, and finally the blitz that continues to this day.

So yes, Palestinians are angry ….. but there are positive ways to vent this anger in ways that will benefit the entire nation. Events of the past few days are not the ways I speak of. The murder of Israeli civilians only serves the interests of the Israelis themselves as can be see in THIS post that I wrote. But now, Hamas itself seems to be issuing statements in support of this madness…

“The occupation is persistent in its aggression and it does not need any justifications to launch an assault; what we do is a reaction to these crimes,” he added.


The above is taken FROM …. which leads to the following….

What is Hamas thinking?

David Samel


As the “peace talks” are about to get under way in Washington, Hamas has decided to remind us all of its vitality by executing four settlers. According to the New York Times article, Hamas claimed that the attack was “a natural response to the crimes of the Israeli occupation and its settlers” and demonstrates that the “armed Palestinian resistance is present in the West Bank despite the war to uproot it.”

Hamas, and all Palestinians, have good reason to be pissed off. The Washington peace conference excludes any recognition of Hamas, principally because it has blood on its hands –– a tiny percentage of the blood on Israel’s hands. The Palestinian representative at these talks is a pathetic, impotent figure whose popular support among his supposed constituents is laughable. The sponsor for the talks is the most powerful country in the world, which has consistently given unwavering military, economic and diplomatic support to the other side, regardless of questions of international law and common decency. More generally, Israel is in its 44th year of imposing a military dictatorship over millions of people that has no signs of abating, and is engaging in its umpteenth maneuver to extend such control indefinitely while feigning a willingness to relinquish it.

But are any of these reasons to murder four people in cold blood? Was it necessary to prove that the Hamas-less conference in Washington was a charade? Couldn’t it collapse under its own weight?

What is Hamas thinking? It has shown that “armed Palestinian resistance is present” all right, but also that it can act as murderously and stupidly as the government it fights against. Apart from the moral unacceptability of randomly killing human beings, Hamas’s outrage seems doomed to backfire. The world’s view of the situation is finally changing.

The horrors of Gaza and the Mavi Marmara have focused much-needed attention on Israeli violence, and earned Hamas somewhat of a pass for its own past deeds.

Many are finally realizing that excluding Hamas from peace talks with Israel because of its history of violence is absurdly hypocritical. Now Hamas has placed its own murderous predisposition front and center, ceding the moral high ground to Netanyahu, a development that appeared nearly impossible a few days ago. And, if Israel reacts in its usual bloodthirsty and arbitrary fashion, innocent Palestinians, whose only offense is their ethnicity, will die.
American politicians will fall over themselves to get to the microphone to applaud Israel’s exercise of its “right to self-defense” and “deterrence” by demonstrating that “there is a high price to pay for Jewish blood.” The Jews of Israel aren’t going anywhere. They are there to stay, and the only question is whether they will insist on maintaining a cruel and unjust system in which they dominate and control, and dispossess and occasionally kill, the indigenous Palestinian population, or whether they accept true equality.

I think equality is inevitable, both morally and historically, but the time it takes to arrive at that resolution is dependent in large part on worldwide opinion. Hamas has just done its best to postpone that outcome.

Above taken FROM via Uruknet

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Thanks for our Desertpeace cousins for revealing their true color,
All the makeup on the earth shall not hide your ugly zionist color, though low calorie and hidden.

Here the confused "cousins", after telling us that the Israel "Victims" are "civilians" they admit that setlers, especially the settlers in and around Hebron being the most extreme, are thieves, attacking Palestinian civilians on a nearly daily basis. violating international humanitarian law, universally rejected (except in Israel), they, the cousins expose their ugly color again claiming that those extreme theives are noncombatants, and killing them is rejected.

Again, I say Setller is Setller whether living in Kiryat Arba or in Haifa, both are occupiers.
Fighting, and killing the occupier is the only way to end occupation.
To Steve Amsel, the loyal friend of Mary Rizostine, and the "brother" of Our Neo-Handala I say:

My brother Gilad Atzimon, an Ex-IOF, though born in Occupied Palestine, once he realised that the place he was born in was in fact occupied Palestine, he left his birth place for ever.

When asked: "Could Israelis and Palestinians live in peace?", He answered: "Not in a million years. The notion of peace and reconciliation are foreign to the Israeli ideology, politics and Identity. When an Israeli says Shalom, they do not mean peace, they actually mean ‘security for the Jews’".

Because, Israel is a racially orientated state, an apartheid state and he have no reason or plan to visit that state.

If you ask me if I can live with Gilad in peace, I say yes, I would elect him as my President.

You are originally from the United States. If you want to save your zionist rotten ASS, follow Helen Thomas' advise: “get the hell out of Palestine” Go home to America ” 
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The Makeup (Some DesertHoney)

Update….

Settlements

There is one piece of analysis that I should have added to my previous post about the Hebron shooting attack, which is this:

It’s impossible to think coherently about this incident without also taking into account the fact that the West Bank settlements are themselves represent an act of thievery, and an ongoing violation of international humanitarian law.

They are universally rejected (except in Israel, where they are controversial). The settlements are also the cause of huge hardships among Palestinians, and geographically they are the reason the two state solution seems increasingly implausible. Ideological settler activists also harass and attack Palestinian civilians on a nearly daily basis. The settlers in and around Hebron are among the most extreme.

So, while I utterly reject and deplore the killing of noncombatants, I think if we are to have an intelligent and realistic conversation about the Middle East and the prospects for peace, we cannot leave out these central facts.

More Desert Honey:

Abusing Palestinian Ghandi

WORDS ARE POWERFUL TOOLS

September 2, 2010 at 14:43 "


By Mazin Qumsiyeh, PhD

The Hidden desert Massage (put in Mazin's mouth) is: Armed resistence is MADNESS
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