Upon the zionist master's instruction, Alan showed his realty as subservent to CHABAD, and the true color of his Web site, and its committment "to the liberation of the Palestinian people", he removed the Article from his site, because he "should not have published the interview" because he learned off course from the Zionist Master, "of many allegations that Atzmon has made not just highly inflammatory, but anti-Semitic statements about Jews, ...."
He did it, thought "there is no trace of such ideas in his interview with SocialistWorker.org," and concequently zionist are rejoicing the "Socialist Worker wake up!", and Tony G would "raise an ironic cheer".
The racist is not Gilad but, it is Zionism who invented the Jewish racist nation. He, Gilad, had come from them, and he know how they think.
"The ideology that carried out execution-style killings on the Gaza aid flotilla the 'Mavi Marmara' is the same ideology that carried out the massacres at Deir Yassin, Qibya, Sabra and Shatilla, Qana, Gaza, Jenin and the murder of Rachel Corrie — more than that it is the same ideology that killed Christ."
Here, Gilad, is taking about Ideology, not Jewish religion, not Jewish Genes as some "Muslim Judeo-Marxist" claimed.
As an Uprooted Palestinian, I don't need the solidarity of "undercover Zionists" "surprised to go to SocialistWorker.org and see an interview with Gilad Atzmon ("Each village is a reminder," July 13).
Yes Each village is a reminder not only for us, uprooted Palestinians, but for Jews such as Gilad who after so many years realized that the place he was born in was in fact occupied Palestine. Consequently Gilad now lives in “self-exile” in Britain. He and jews like him who would chose to live in "Self-exile"are welcome in Liberated Palestine (River to Sea),
I TRAVELED to Gaza last year in July with the Viva Palestina convoy, and I spoke with people from the Jabaliya refugee camp. They talked about their expulsion first in 1948 and then again in 1967. It became clear to me that if you only allow return to the 1967 territories, but leave alone the issue of 1948, you would be potentially splitting up families...The mother could return to the West Bank, but the grandmother could not go back to Haifa.
Was there any recognition that this tangled web had been woven by the time you were born in Israel? Was that something you realized later or was that something in the background that you look back on and say, "I should have recognized it back then?"
I DEFINITELY look back on it. I wasn't aware. We were not aware. Probably our teachers were not aware and probably my father, who lived through it.
I asked my father once, when I started to learn about the expulsion, "Listen, man, you were nine years old in 1948. This land changed in front of your eyes. Convoys of refugees." My father told me, "I didn't see anything. I don't remember."
I told him, "The way to Haifa was all Palestinian villages. Here." I had the map. "Here they are, and they're gone." My father just waved his hand as if to say, "Go away."
We really have to start to understand the notion of phantasmic past. These people invented their past, as Shlomo Sand argues, and he is right. The Zionists invented their past with the hope that their future would shape accordingly. And their history doesn't have to be consistent, because they can invent it whenever they want. They cherry-picked the events that would support their narrative. It's very typical.
Every time I think about my past, I find more and more things I should have recognized. I read and reviewed Ramzy Baroud's amazing book My Father Was a Freedom Fighter, and he talks about his father's experience and where he was born. It's amazing. I gave it to my mom, who read it and, like myself, was shocked. She said, "Where was this village?" We looked at the maps, and we couldn't figure it out.
You have to understand. It's hard to believe, but try to imagine you traveled from Rochester, N.Y., to New York City and on your way back, all the villages and towns along the way were wiped out. Even the signposts...gone.
I ASK about your childhood because growing up in this part of New York, you have the experience of learning about the history of Native Americans in the United States, and then part of your school education is to tour some of the sites, because this area is where the Iroquois Nation lived and still lives.
IF YOU google the name Gilad Atzmon, you find this dual persona. There is the musician, and then there is the writer/activist. In your presentation, you talked about how these aspects of your life intersect. Can you explain this some more?
So I never thought that anything good would come of me...I've never spoken about my dyslexia before, by the way.
As a musician and as a producer, I listen. I close my eyes. I want to be overwhelmed. And that's the way I operate now with my writing. I am writing for myself. When I'm doing a written interview, I want every answer to be an exciting moment. I think this makes my writing very popular at the moment, and I'm still developing.
I'm searching for the truth, the philosophical truth. I am searching for something that will explain it all. Because there are a lot of things I don't understand yet.
For instance, I don't understand what it is that all those AIPAC Zionists want. What do they want? It's like the most stupid question. Do they want safety? No. Do they want security? No. What do they really want? It's a very big question, a very simple question but I don't have an answer.
YOU HAVE a certain confidence to talk about an issue that is rather hush-hush in the United States. It's not polite to talk openly about the Palestinians, let alone question the nature of Jewish identity.
TO START with, based on stats from my Web site, hits coming from America are surprisingly high. My popularity in this country is shocking. If somebody told me years ago that I would be getting 30,000 hits a day or something like that from America, I would have laughed out loud. So, it's true, a lot of people here are reading it.
Earlier today, someone asked me, "Given all you said, what should we do?" I don't like to talk about state solutions--one-state solution, two-state solution. The most important thing, the only thing that we can do, is to speak our heart. For some, it may be for the first time after so many years of being silenced.
Speak your heart. Say, "We don't like it. We don't like what you're doing. We don't like to send our soldiers to fight Zionist wars in Iraq. We don't like it." To identify, to name and shame the people that are behind it. They will call you an anti-Semite. To me, if telling the truth means I have to be labeled an anti-Semite, then I'll be an anti-Semite. What do you want me to do?
A LOT of musicians aim to become the best at a particular genre. From my perspective, you have managed that much with your saxophone playing, but beyond just being talented at your craft, you explore other musical genres outside the Western musical tradition. Can you talk some about that?
AS I said, growing up, I listened to Charlie Parker, I listened to Coltrane, I listened to Michael Brecker. I said to myself, "Oh man! How can you play like that?" I'm still overwhelmed by it. And when I was in America in 1986-87, I thought to myself, "Shit, I really want to be a professional musician."
America is a country in search of professionalization in everything. You have to be really good to make it in America, and I admire that. But with music education in jazz, at the Berklee School of Music in Boston and other music schools, music has lost its spirit. Rather than the spirit of resistance--and this is what jazz was and what made it so great--it has become just another form of knowledge.
So the professors say, "And today we are going to learn the Lydian scale. Everyone together--one, two, three, four!" I went to Berklee--I was there for two hours, man. If this is what it means to be a musician, I thought I better become a builder.
YOU SEEM to gravitate towards musical styles that have these radical roots, like jazz and punk rock. Is that intentional?
I LIKE music that moves walls. Coltrane could break a wall. I was lucky to work with Ian Dury. This man, this band, The Blockheads, can cut through anything.
I had a great chance to work with Robert Wyatt. Robert's taste was extremely vulnerable. It's delicious. It's this crispy deliciousness that can make a window crack. Yes, I want to be moved by music.
My engineer, who I've worked with for 10 years now, told me a few months back--and realize that he's 60 years old and he's been doing this for 40 years--"Gilad, you are the most exhausting human being I've ever come across."
I started to cry. I thought, "What did I do now?" He said, "Listen, you just won't let something go." You know, I could walk into a session with a band, and I'll stay there until a tune is tearing you apart. My engineer is right, I won't let it go. And I hope that I'm not yet at my peak. Yesterday, I listened to Zero Hour by Astor Piazzolla on the airplane. Oh man, he can go through a tank! I'm not there yet, but I am still working on it.
IT'S THAT combination of anger, defiance and also hope. That came through in your talk and in your playing, too.
I THINK that hope is the fuel of life. And I don't think that the current political setting is providing us with such a thing. What is the greatest asset of Barack Obama? It was the hope. And I don't want him to waste this hope on idiotic political games. We need hope because we don't have money. We have kids, but what kind of world are these kids going to have?
It's very possible that our politicians cannot provide this hope. I said the other day, and I'll say it again: Try to buy an F-15 fighter jet. They're expensive, man. Try to buy a tank. Try to buy armor. How much is it? Hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars?
So they buy a few American politicians, and then you fight their wars. You go, you kill Saddam, you say you're going to liberate the Iraqi people. It's almost pathetic. How can these politicians...how can this system provide us with hope?
The first step towards hope is to be genuine. Say, "We don't like what we see." And for Palestine, I think that the shift of consciousness is far bigger than the politicians. The politicians will follow us. We are ahead of them.
River to Sea Uprooted Palestinian