Showing posts with label Mollistine. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Mollistine. Show all posts

Monday, 14 May 2012

Clueless Arab and Palestinian leaders and pundits

"I don't feel that it is right to simply indulge in reckless Assad-bashing like many Arab and, sadly, Palestinian, pundits do."

"For a while, I just assumed that they are misguided, but sincere, but when they turned their ideological hatred against Hassan Nasrallah, by far the most popular leader in the Arab and Muslim world, they showed me their true faces. Nasrallah, whom they in the past had covered in praise, suddenly turned into an overnight villain. Why? Because he chose to side with Assad and not with the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel and NATO. When I now see their expressions of outrage I wonder - did these pundits ever bother to actually listen (or read) a single speech by Hassan Nasrallah? How could they ever imagine that he would ever side with AIPAC and all the other newfound "friends of the Syrian people"?!" - The saker.

I added a link to let readers know that the Saker is referring to this Palestinian, pundits

The Zionist Pundit upgraded his blog and so there is no access to comments on his shitty posts. However, check this one, its about syria, Hezbollah, and the assasination of Imad Moghniyeh. Tony accused Syria, and this one, and this one

For more check the postes labeled: Mollistine.

BTW, Molly, the Pundit's jewish friend started the whole thing, she started the Pundit's blog, and served as the the thought police.
I met the Saker there, where I was at odds with the Zionist pundit, and sometimes with the SAKER, who sometimes hailed the carriage of the pundit. I disagreed with both on Syria, which I always considered, the cave of the Arab's résistance, and time proved that I was right, and explains why Syria is under a global attack since 13 months.
I am glad to see that the Saker, who was all the time right about Iran and Hezbullah, has the carriage to rethink his posion on Syria, because, Syria, NOW is the core of resistance. 
I generally agree with the Saker's below analysis. However I disagree with him claiming that Russia would not "militarily defend Syria in the case of a NATO aggression". Syria, being the corner stone of the Axis of resistance is a red line. Russia, Iran, and China are defending themselves in Syria. I can't imagine Russia who suffered the fall of the Soviet Union, would let Syria fall, and wait it turn, the fall of the Russian Union. Khamenei told Erdogan that if Damascus has to fall, then Tehran would fall first.
The Saker is surprised with the pundit and pundit likes, who in the past had covered Nasrallah in praise "suddenly" turning into an overnight villain. Why? the Saker asked.
"Because he chose to side with Assad" He answered.
No, my dear, Nasrallah sided Assad all the time. The pundit, as I said tens of times, is nothing but a zionist agent, who praised Hezbullah to mock and justify smearing Hamas, when Hamas was a resistance movement. With Hamas leaving Syria, I asume the Zionist Pundit is fine with Hamas now. And, since 13 months, he is using Syria events to Mock and Justify his smearing Hezbollah.

"We are a player in the region. If you want to talk about peace, you can't advance without Syria." "you must deal with Syria on her terms". Three years ago.

Both Arab nationalism and Islam have failed, and failed badly. by the pundit with great comments by Lucia and the Saker - Monday, September 29, 2008


Clueless Arab and Palestinian leaders and pundits: "¡Que se vayan todos!"

By The Saker
Two huge explosions killed and wounded scores of people in Damascus. The government accused the opposition, which, in turn, accused the government. And then this, today: in a video posted online the Islamist group al-Nusra Front says it carried out two bomb attacks in the Syrian capital Damascus on Thursday (the original quote in BBC's newspeak was: "A video posted online in the name of Islamist group, al-Nusra Front, says it carried out two bomb attacks in the Syrian capital Damascus on Thursday". Just an example of how political correctness even damages grammar). This all got me thinking again: does anybody care that the Wahabis are on yet another rabid killing spree, this time in Syria?

I have not posted much on Syria primarily because I feel rather uncomfortable with the entire situation. As you probably know, I loathe the Assad regime as much as I loathed the Gaddafi one. And yet, I don't feel that it is right to simply indulge in reckless Assad-bashing like many Arab and, sadly, Palestinian, pundits do. The very same folks whose irresponsible "down with Gaddafi!" plunged Libya in violence, chaos and poverty are now clearly hell-bent on repeating that same "performance" with Syria. The weirdest thing about these people is that they are self-proclaimed secularists, and yet they are in bed with the worse religious fanatics of the planet (Wahabi Islamists and Orthodox Jews). They whine about human rights, but when Gaddafi gets lynched by a crazed mob who even sodomizes him with a large knife, they turn away and have nothing to say.

For a while, I just assumed that they are misguided, but sincere, but when they turned their ideological hatred against Hassan Nasrallah, by far the most popular leader in the Arab and Muslim world, they showed me their true faces. Nasrallah, whom they in the past had covered in praise, suddenly turned into an overnight villain. Why? Because he chose to side with Assad and not with the US, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Israel and NATO. When I now see their expressions of outrage I wonder - did these pundits ever bother to actually listen (or read) a single speech by Hassan Nasrallah? How could they ever imagine that he would ever side with AIPAC and all the other newfound "friends of the Syrian people"?!
It is a very sad fact that a large segment of the Palestinian political leaders and pundits have had the gall to slander the one man on the planet who did more for the Palestinian people than any other and, forgive me for saying so, who did more for Palestine than any Palestinian ever did.
I understand that it would be useless for me to argue directly with these people, so I will limited myself to dedicating this short Russian fable to them in the hope that they might reflect on its moral:
video
This time around, and to the great chagrin of these "friends of the Syrian people", both Russia and China have balked at the US demands to betray Assad and the Syrian people (like they had done with Gaddafi and the Libyan people). This double veto got these folks really, really, really angry because they figured out that this time a NATO war on Syria would probably not happen. Barring a complete breakdown of the Assad regime, a "victory" for bizarre "Wahabi-Judaic-Secular coalition" is rather unlikely, hence the subsequent wave of (mostly) anti-Russian and (marginally) anti-Chinese vitriol.

Pepe Escobar has written a very witty satire about the fallback policy of the West towards Syria entitled World Powers Rush to Plunge Syria Into War. Check it out, it is both funny, accurate and sad.
As for the regime, it seems to be taking Moscow's threats about "no more mistakes or you are own your own" seriously and following a constitutional referendum parliamentary election have taken place. Does that mean that this Baathist regime has now come clean? Probably not. Old habits die hard, and corrupt officials used to rule by fear do not mend their ways overnight. But at least these two events could become the beginning of a gradual process of reform which could last for a very long time. The opposition understands that - hence the orgy of bombings which we are now witnessing.

Its too early to call this one. The Empire did prevail in Bosnia, Kosovo and Libya, but it was defeated in Chechnia by Russia which is now probably putting a lot of pressure on Assad to clean up his act. Besides Russia, Iran and Hezbollah are probably also trying to save Assad's regime, and both of these are very good at counter-insurgency operations. So I want to believe that there is hope to avoid a "Bosnia v4, Kosovo v3 or a Libya v2 in Syria", but it is going to be hard: Turkey is feeling that the moment is critical and going for the jugular, and NATO still might decide to strike. As I said many, many, times here, Russia will not, repeat not, militarily defend Syria in the case of a NATO aggression. And neither will China, of course. And that is the main problem.
The NATO puppets in Syria (aka the "Syrian opposition") enjoy the certainty that it can always retreat to a safe heaven into Turkey or Jordan and that its US and Israeli patrons will look out after them. The folks risking their necks for the Assad regime have no such guarantees. NATO can decide to strike and if that happens, they will be on their own with a zero chance to prevail.
The future is probably in the hands of the Syrian people. If they can convince NATO and its US overlords that an invasion of Syria will turn into a bloody mess followed by a bloody insurgency, NATO might decide to stay out of it. But if NATO feels that all it needs to do is engage into another air campaign "a la Libya" and that its allies on the ground will do what the KLA did in Kosovo or the Northern Alliance did in Afghanistan, then its all over for Assad and Syria.
Whatever the outcome, the moral stain on the Palestinian elites will remain: twice they back-stabbed their Arab brothers and twice they were on the wrong side of the fence. If Syria collapses, it will be with their complicity, and if Syria prevails, it will be in spite of them.

When the Argentinian people got really totally sick and tired of all of their political elites they came up with a truly beautiful slogan: "¡Que se vayan todos!" ("All of them must go!"). This is also what I wish the Palestinian people, that they finally get rid of their clueless political leaders and equally clueless do-gooder supporters abroad.
Hassan Nasrallah has recently declared that the time when Israel will cease to exist is nearing, and he is absolutely correct about that. The liberation of the Palestinian people is a historical inevitability, but it will not happen as long as the Palestinian people are lead by clueless elites. Neither Fatah nor Hamas nor the so-called "Palestinian intellectuals" have what it takes to free Palestine. So, indeed, "¡Que se vayan todos!"

The Saker
River to Sea Uprooted Palestinian  
The views expressed in this article are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of this Blog!

Friday, 8 April 2011

Syria, the "Revolution" of NATO, Arab IDIOTS and 'disappointed' Libyan rebels

Tony finally found it: It's a Nato "Revolution", he even dared to smear the 'disappointed' Libyan rebels.


"HAVE YOU NO SHAME MR. PRESIDENT? I USED TO BE A STRONG SUPPORTER OF YOU, BUT NO MORE!
SUPPORT OF BLOOD-SOAKED TYRANTS MAKES A MOCKERY OF YOUR POPULIST CREDENTIALS". thus preyed TONY
"Shame on Chavez , shame on Castro, shame on every progressive that will support them from now on" thus farted Khara (tony's contributor) "[I can not believe this !! how can these clowns defend the king of clowns Gadaffi ?I mean I know dictators heart each other but this proves the futility of the cult of personality. To discredit the people who are getting slaughtered as part of an "imperial conspiracy" shows you how these "leftists" know Marx as much as Bush knows Nietzsche.... Shame on them , I hope Progressives (Tareq Ali , John Pilger ...etc) revise their opinions of Chavez who is not what they thought he is]"


One month ago I wrote:

"History repeats itself, The Iraqi Nakba started with a No Fly Zone Amr Mussa called for a no-fly zone, it may pave his way to Qusr Al-Urouba (Presidency Palace) Nato is comming for the bloody oil, and to contain the ARAB'S UPRISING in Tunis and Egypt"

And now we are wittnessing two un-finished revolutions in Tunis and Egypt, and creation of a bufferzone in between. Libyans getting screwed from Usa, Europe, and their own naive divided and disorganised repells who believed the myth of humanitarian intervention.

The enemy has become Castro, Hugo, Erdogan, Assad.
To counter balance losing Mubarak, Assad should go,

The Zionist Hasbara site run by TONY, picked the following piece of shit:

The full and horrible story of Assad conspiring with Israel against Houran (Southern Syria)

 القصة الكاملة والرهيبة لتآمر الأسد مع اسرائيل على حوران

http://palestinianpundit.blogspot.com/2011/04/blog-post_03.html

The main points of above Hasabra story:
  • According to UN truce agreements after 1973 war Houran is a buffer zone.
  • During the so-called uprising Assad crossed the RED LINES, and send his tanks to Houran, without no objection neither from Israel nor from UN peace keeping force.
Therefore, He got green light from Israel who wants him to stay in power agains his peoples will, Thus Arab Zionists concluded.

The real story

Now let us think why the violent demonstrations started in Houran. It started their in Deraa, because Deraa is 6 Km from Jordanian, Palestine, Lebanese borders with Syria, and the Assad's security fist on it is not that strong. This fact explains the fierce reaction of Deraa governor, and why Assad decided to cross the RED LINE
In his speech, Assad send messages to his people, and to Usrael.
To his people he said that the people of Deraa are supposed to be the first line defending Syria.
To Usrael, riding the peoples call for freedom and lifting emergency law, he hinted, that emergency law can't be lifted unless peace is achieved, as no piece is achieved, then its war, and Syria is ready for that.
Crossing the red lines was Assad's message, and both Israel and the UN got and understood the message. They Got a similar message from Erdogan,
Both swallowed their tongues, they don't want War. They want civil wars.

River to Sea Uprooted Palestinian

Saturday, 2 April 2011

Hamas confirms support for Syria's people and leadership

[ 02/04/2011 - 03:08 PM ]

DAMASCUS, (PIC)-- Hamas has said in a statement on Saturday that it stands by both the leadership and people of Syria, praising Syria's leadership and people for siding with the movement to resist the Israeli occupation throughout the years.

”The leadership and people of Syria have stood with the Palestinians' resistance movement and rights and embraced and supported the Palestinian resistance forces, especially Hamas, in the darkest and most difficult of times,” the statement reads. ”It has taken great risks and challenges and has been steadfast throughout pressures in order to remain committed to resistance in the region, supporting Palestine and its people and its resistance in particular.”

”What is happening now is an internal affair concerning the people of Syria,” Hamas declared. ”But Hamas, based on its principle of respect for the will and aspirations of the Arab and Islamic people, hopes the current situation will pass with the aspirations and the wishes of the Syrian people achieved and Syria's stability and internal cohesion preserved.”
According to the Palestinian IDIOT Hamas should have supported Rifaat Al-assad, Khaddam, Hariri, and Syriam "Muslim" Brother's thugs, in stead of supporting the "Slaughter of the Syrian People"

He, Khara anf their Zionist Master, Molly, would like to see another IRAQ in Syria, a dream that shall never come true.


No surprise, on February 13, 2008, the bastard dropped Memri's BOMBSHELL about Bush's strangest Syrian bedfellow, at center of suspicion in Hezbollah leader's car bombing,

[Shawkat, by delivering the goods on the assassination of America's "Most Wanted" Mugniyah, has ensured that he will now receive the protection of the Bush White House in the current UN investigation of car bombings in Lebanon, most notably that of former Lebanese Prime Minister Rafik Hariri."], he posted

About two years ago he preyed that the The Pace of the US/Syrian Dance is Set to Quicken Soon
that Hamas is feeling the heat from Syria, and advised hamas leader to look for another shelter

River to Sea Uprooted Palestinian

Friday, 18 February 2011

Angry Arab,The Pandit and Me: On Hamas Immune to learning (Pumped)


"I never expected much from Hamas in terms of military effectiveness, and I think that the Israeli-Egyptian-Saudi-Dahlan plan was based on a low estimation of Hamas' military effectiveness."

Angry Arab

On balance: Evaluation of the Israeli festival of slaughter and butchery in Gaza

From war to war (which is a title of a book by Nadav Safran), that is the context in which we need to evaluate our century-old conflict with Israel. You can't isolate each chapter or war or slaughter and analyze it without the larger context of the conflict.

The press conference by the Israeli prime minister and his defense minister was remarkable: less triumphalist than usual, and certainly vague about goals and successes. Now we can evaluate the goals within the context of Israel's declared goals, and within the context of Israel's strategic plan.

For somebody of my age, I can say this at first: that from 1948 until the 1990s, every Israeli military success more smashing the one before: the 1973 was a different story because it was the only Arab-Israeli war that was initiated by the Arab side (remarkable when you think about the propaganda of the "beleaguered Israel"), and it was bungled by the Egyptian (Nazi) dictator, Anwar Sadat (Jimmy Carter's favorite personality and friend), and Israel (contrary to present-day Arab states' propaganda) wound up winning overall at the end.

So Israel's strategic posture was predicated on intimidating

1) the armies of the enemy;

2) the population of the enemy.

Israeli psychological warfare succeeded for decades in convincing the enemy that Israel is way too mighty and way too invincible to be damaged by any military effort. Arabs reached a mood of defeatism that permeated the political culture, and helped in securing the survival and propaganda of the ruling regimes. Israel's tactic was meant to discourage any political violence or even defense from the other side.

You also need to compare to the times when Israel faced non-state actors:

We have different episodes:

From Al-Karamah battle in 1968 (a crucial watershed in fida'iyyin recruitment), to the various chapters of Israeli invasions of Lebanon culminating in the 1982 invasion of Lebanon.

I am quite familiar and witnessed the responses to Israeli invasions of Lebanon. It is in that context that I find Gaza (under siege and cut off from the world with Egypt playing the role of the ally of Israel) to be an utter failure for the Israeli side.

I never expected much from Hamas in terms of military effectiveness, and I think that the Israeli-Egyptian-Saudi-Dahlan plan was based on a low estimation of Hamas' military effectiveness.

In previous confrontations in the West Bank or in Lebanon in the 1980s, the Israeli military would bomb from the air for a day or two, and then advance swiftly. And that was exactly what happened in the invasion of Lebanon in the summer of 1982: now, the lack of stiff resistance back then had to do with many factors, including the lousy leadership of `Arafat (who cared about preserving his little empire more than about resistance and who is not dead enough as far as I am concerned, and may his grave deepen), the gap between people of the South and the resistance, and the financial regularization of the PLO's fighting force, and the psychological factor that often curtailed the ability of the fighting force, all helped the Israeli plan. True, there was stiff resistance in some places: like Rashidiyyah and `Ayn Al-Hilwah but it was sporadic and disorganized.

Only in West Beirut, a strong fighting force was prepared and they were ready for a confrontation with Israel, and that is why Israel never invaded the city: it only waited until the evacuation of the fighters and then supervised the butchery of the women and children in the Sabra and Shatila camps--slaughter of women and children is a classic specialty of the Zionist forces even before the establishment of the state.

But Hamas performed far better than the expectations of its enemies and even of its leadership in Syria and Lebanon.

Israel would have succeeded if it achieved what it wanted: to achieve an unconditional surrender of Hamas.

That's what it used to get from Fatah in the West Bank: Arafat would negotiate the terms of his surrender with third-parties and that would be that (like in Bethlehem).

Yet, Hamas defiance and the launching of rockets continued to the last day--in fact it continues as I write this from what I see on the screen. Hamas leaders did not leave as Fatah leaders and fighters would (in the era under Arafat-Dahlan-Rajjub in the West Bank bantustan after Oslo), but continued in stiff resistance and defiance to the very last end.

So Israel failed in

1) achieving a total surrender of Hamas;

2) in propping up the Dahlan-Abu Mazen gangs who are more discredited today than ever. Early in the campaign, Dahlan appeared on Al-Arabiyya and on Egyptian TV and was quite bombastic because he was expecting that the matter would be over in the first week. When that did not happen, he disappeared, and some say that he went back to Montenegro--his news base.

3) Israel failed in achieving a victory that it needed: a victory that would once and for all put to rest the humiliating defeat of Israel in 2006. Hamas new that its performance was extremely influential in possibly dramatically altering the image of the Israeli soldiers in the eyes of all Arabs: fighters and lay people alike, and it knew that expectations were in building on the performance on Hizbullah in 2006;

4) Israel failed in creating a rift between the Palestinian people and Hamas, just as it failed to create a rift between the population of the South and Hizbullah, its silly SMS messages notwithstanding;

5) Israel failed in putting an end to the rockets;

6) Israel failed in smashing Hamas;

7) Israel failed in creating a new psychological climate in the Middle East: it was expected that Israel would use more massive and indiscriminate violence than before, and that it would try to "shock and awe" more than before because it wanted to kill the image of its humiliation in South Lebanon. That was not accomplished despite the high number of casualties among the civilians.

8) Israeli prime minister today bragged about intelligence successes: but that was inflated. It is true the killing of two Hamas leaders (along with tens of innocent civilians but that is how Israel "assassinates") was a success for Israel but there are other Hamas leaders. Plus, Israel policy of assuming that an organization would die by killing the leader has always been one of the many dumb Israeli miscalculations.

The most recent case was in 1992 when Israeli terrorist leaders killed Abbas Musawi (and his family) and they got...Hasan Nasrallah instead. I have no doubt that they probably now regret killing Musawi.

And Hamas now operates on the assumption that all leaders may die and they have most likely structured the organization on that assumption, unlike the centrally run, say, DFLP or Fatah under `Arafat.

9) Israel failed to build on the years-old Saudi policy of mobilizing Arab public opinion against Iran, instead of Israel. That clearly failed miserably. If anything, Arab public opinion is more mobilized against Israel than any other time in memory.

10) Israel failed to sell its slaughter as a legitimate contribution to the "war on terrorism".

Clearly, the scenes of carnage offended public opinion around the world with the exception of the US and the UN embassy of Micronesia. But there are successes: if Israel was aiming to kill a very large number of women and children, that was achieved to a large measure.

Very knowledgeable sources in Beirut tell me that only 5% of Hamas' fighting abilities were damaged in this war thus far, and there will be another round no doubt.

But think about Karamah battle. In Karamah: a lot of the lore was built by Arafat's bombast and a unit of the Jordanian army fought with the Palestinian resistance.

This time around, Arab and particularly Palestinian public opinion will look with admiration at the performance of Hamas during this 22 days. It is commonly estimated that some 20,000 Palestinians volunteered in the resistance movement after Karamah, and I expect a region-wide campaign of recruitment to the benefit of Hamas.

Israel's choice of Palestinian leadership (supported by Jordan, Saudi Arabia, and Egypt), i.e., Dahlan gangs, are discredited beyond repait. I mean, when I read in Saudi newspapers description of Dahlan as an Israeli stooge, you know how Palestinian opinion will regard him--and the fleeing of his men in their underwear did not help either.

From 1968 to 1978, the Fatah movement transformed from a band of fighters in Jordan to an army (badly run to be sure by Arafat) with all sorts of heavy weapons.

There is now a point of no-return:

Arabs are no more afraid of Israeli soldiers. From that loss, Israel shall never recover and it will expedite the inevitable process of the elimination of Zionism from Palestine.

The confrontation with Israel is cumulative, and this culmination is now not in the interests of Israel. Many Arabs now talk about the defeat of Israel: I rarely heard those sentiments before 2006.



Comment:

I was never in agreement with Asaad when it comes to Hezbollah, Hamas, and Syria, but I always respected his hounesty. Here, we are on the same page. I agree with every word he wrote. I am glad that Assad finally realized how Hezbollah, then Hamas has spoiled the Israeli-Egyptian-Saudi-Dahlan plans, and paved the way for the defeat of Israel and the collapse of Zionism. I hope he will recognize that both victories were achieved with help of Syria and Iran.

Yesterday I commented under the Title: Its Time for a Resistant Government

"Since Day 1 of Gaza raid, I told many friends, that this war shall fail to destroy Hamas, instead it will expose and destroy both PA, and PlO.
Fath emerged as a resistance movement in 1965, but failed to seize PLO until Karama battle. As Karama battle was Fath passport to PLO leadership, the Battle of Gaza paved the Way for Mashaal to Doha. That's how I read the appearance of Mashaal at Doha. "


"Yes its time to hand over the Leadership to Resistance. However, the change shall not be smooth as in 1967-1968.'

Yesterday I mocked the "Great" ANALYSIST of PP who mocked Hamas day and night and kept shocking his "Head" the last two years,

Looks like his head stopped shaking, but he don't have the carraige to say: SORRY HAMAS, SORRY HANEYEH, Or at least follow the steps of the Angry Arab and say, "I never expected much from Hamas in terms of military effectiveness,.."

Today he wrote:

"First Was Hizbullah.....

Now Hamas......

Israel: The Resistance is Spreading! Your "Deterrence" is Toothless!
Some Arabs and Muslims Have Conquered Fear and Are Unbeatable!

# posted by Tony : 7:08 AM

Yes Ton TFUUUU, They, are the same Arabs and Muslims (Immune to Learning, Hot Air, Habilas, windbags) you mocked. Here is a sample;

"17 Killed in Gaza, TodayAnd Yet, Hamas "Massed" its Forces to "Confront" Tanks, Helicopter Gunships and Missiles......

Excuse Me, But This is Mass Suicide, Not Resistance

Damn It!

God Gave You a Brain; Use It!!"

TON TFUUUU concluded: "You ask, what can Hamas do? At a minimum hide, in the face of a superior force."I am sure you shall recognize the smell, and know who did it..

Uprooted palestinian 03.03.08 - 4:11 pm #


15 months ago I told Tony;

"I am just wondering how a palestinian from Gaza would ignore the facts on ground and around the ground and continue whipping his great people, because they failed achieve victory over 90 years, ignoring that almost all the world are against them, ignoring that Zionism is collapsing."

"A palestinian from Gaza should know that its Oslo/Fateh/ Abu-Ammar, not Hamas, who releaved Israel from its Liabilities as occupier.. "

"A palestinian from Gaza should be aware that Israel and its agents used guerrilla tactics of surprise against Paletinians, before Hamas acted as an established government; even before the birth of Hamas."

"A nationalliberation force should be prepared to take all the liabilities, arrising after the withdrawal of occupier..I wonder What Our "General Gyab" may suggest, other than whipping Hamas for wearing Uniforms and acting as a government? Should Hamas apply for the return of Barak and or Dahlan to Gaza?? #


After Beit Hannon Massacre, I commented on Tony's critisizing Hamas for massing its forces to confront IDF:

"Can't you understand that dozens of Hamas fighters are confronting "Tanks, Helicopter Gunships and Missiles......" to prevent bringing "back the traitor Abbas on the back of an Israeli tank".

Can't you understand that calling Hamas to Hide is the shortest way to "bring back the traitor Abbas on the back of an Israeli tank".

To invade or not Invade. Israel is facing this bitter option, and looks like obtained bush's green light. Its could be a wide scale Jenin Massacre, Here I remeber what Uri Aveneri saw after Jenin, a longer que of "Palestinian Suicide bombers"

Again "Excuse Me, But This is the ultimate Resistance, This Hamas Karballa, die to keep the cause alive, "


One year ago I wrote at PP:

"Abbass, is NAKED, very NAKED, nothing may cover his treason. THANKS to the "SUICIDE MOVEMENT" for exposing him."

Uprooted Palestinian 01.18.08 - 4:43 am #


Tony: Shame on you, It is them, Hamas, who Stoned the Zionist Iblees with Qassam, as they do evey year in MECCA.

Finally,

I HOPE YOU MAY CONQUER YOUR COWARDNESS AND STOP FEELING INFEARIOR.

Say HI to to your Jewiss MOLLY moderating your BLOG.

Thursday, 17 February 2011

Resistance Magician: He invented something different - Some of his biography

We learned that when the Enemy advance, the resistance retreat, HIDE
Imad invented some new rules: It worked in July and War on Gaza


مرت على فلسطين من سنة 48 الى الآن ستون سنة، أي ستة أجيال ولدت، واستهلكت الكثير من الناس كشهداء أو نسيها أناس أو تجاهلوها، وكم استهلكت من أنظمة. وكم ستستهلك بعد؟ وأهم شيء أن عماد اخترع أحداً مختلفاً ليقاوم، وعمل شيئاً جديداً، ربّى أناساً لا يتراجعون عندما يتقدم العدو.
كنا نعيش على القواعد السابقة، أي أن العمل المقاوم يتراجع الى الخلف عندما يتقدم العدو. كان عندما يقال إن إسرائيل آتية يتوه الناس، لكن تغيّر هذا الآن.

اليوم، هناك أشكال جديدة للمقاومة استنبطها عماد.....هذا الشاب الصغير من طيردبّا من جنوب لبنان الذي شرب من الليطاني خرجت منه هذه الاختراعات الكثيرة، وطبعاً ليس وحده، فهناك دعم من سوريا وإيران، لكنني أعتقد أن عماد كان يقول لكل الناس تعالوا واخترعوا مثلنا
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Flashback:

"So when I hear Hamas declaring that it would stop an Israeli invasion of Gaza, I just shake my Head." The Palestinian Idiot on  one of the problems of Arab culture.

And Yet, Hamas "Massed" its Forces to "Confront" Tanks, Helicopter Gunships and Missiles...... Excuse Me, But This is Mass Suicide, Not Resistance
Damn It! God Gave You a Brain; Use It!!


السيد حسن نصرالله والحاج عماد مغنية في لقاء مع
 كوادر المقاومة عقد في التسعينات من القرن الماضي.
(ارشيف المقاومة الاسلامية)
 في الذكرى السنوية لاستشهاد القائد العسكري للمقاومة الاسلامية الحاج عماد مغنية، تقدم «الاخبار» صورة موجزة عن واقع علاقته بالقضية الفلسطينية، منذ تعرفه على حركة «فتح» الى تواصله مع كل فصائل المقاومة حتى لحظة غيابه

ابراهيم الأمين
في حي «الجوار» بمنطقة الشياح في الضاحية الجنوبية لبيروت، أبصر النور عماد مغنية يوم 25/1/1962. والده فايز مغنيّة، وأمّه آمنة سلامة. وفي مدارس ذلك الحي، تلقّى علومه الابتدائية والإعدادية وعاش مع عائلته التي فقدت أيضاً الابنين الآخرين جهاد وفؤاد.
في نحو العاشرة من عمره، صار يرافق والده في العطل الأسبوعية والصيفية إلى مطعمه الصغير الكائن في شارع عبد الكريم الخليل أحد الشوارع الرئيسية في منطقة الشياح، وفي الأمسيات كان يقضي جلّ وقته في المسجد القريب من المنزل الذي كان يعرف بمسجد الشيخ القبيسي. وعندما بلغ الثالثة عشرة من العمر، قرر عماد المتأثر كثيراً بعلوم أمّه الدينية، التوجه إلى العراق حيث الحوزة العلمية في النجف الأشرف. لكن حصل في اللحظة الأخيرة ما عطّل الرحلة.
في 13 نيسان من عام 1975 اندلعت شرارة الحرب الأهلية في لبنان من ساحة «البريد» في عين الرمانه، على بعد 50 متراً من مطعم أبيه، وحينها بدأت حياته العسكرية.
تحوّل طريق «صيدا القديمة»، الفاصل بين الشياح وعين الرمانة، إلى جبهة ساخنة كثرت فيها السواتر الترابية والكتل الخرسانية والمتاريس. في عين الرمانة كان مقاتلو الكتائب والأحرار، وفي الجانب الآخر مقاتلو الحركة الوطنية والفصائل الفلسطينية. هناك تسنّى لعماد وهو بعمر الرابعة عشرة الاختلاط والتعرف إلى اليسار بفصائله وأفكاره المتنوعة.

صادق الشيوعيين وقرأ أفكارهم، وكان لافتاً اهتمامه بتروتسكي. واختلط بالقوميين السوريين الاجتماعيين فأعجبَهُ عمقهم وانضباطهم. لكن كل ذلك لم يدفعه للانتماء إلى أي من الأحزاب اللبنانية. وأمضى أيامه ولياليه، مثل كل الفتية في الشياح، يتنقّل من محور إلى محور، ولصغر سنّه اقتصرت مشاركاته على بناء السواتر الترابية لحماية المدنيين من نيران القناصة، ثم صار يشارك في الحراسات الليلية حيث تعرف إلى المقاتلين الفلسطينيين، وسمع منهم الحكايات عن بلادهم.

أما والدته، فكان لها نصيبها الليلي من المشقّة باحثةً عنه تتقفى أثره من محور إلى آخر، فتعيده الى المنزل ليلاً ليعود ويغادره صباحاً، ولا يعود إلّا برحلة تقفّي أثر جديدة للحاجة آمنة. تلك السيدة التي لم تكن تدرك ما سيأتيها لاحقاً. ففي حزيران من عام 1984 شيّعت الحاجة آمنة والحاج فايز ابنهما الأصغر، جهاد الذي استشهد في قصف مدفعي استهدف منزل العلّامة محمد حسين فضل الله في بئر العبد. وبعد عقد من الزمن شيعت الحاجة آمنة والحاج فايز ابنهما الأوسط فؤاد، الذي كان ضمن تشكيل المقاومة، وقد اغتالته الاستخبارات الإسرائيلية بعبوة ناسفة في منطقة الصفير بالضاحية الجنوبية. كذلك لم تدرك الوالدة ما خبأته لها الأقدار بشهادة ثالث أبنائها، بكرها الحاج عماد، عام 2008.

كان واضحاً أن للتربية الدينية أثرها في الفتى عماد، ومنها اهتمامه بفكر الإمام السيّد موسى الصدر، فشارك في أنشطة حركة المحرومين آنذاك مع أبناء منطقته. لكن الأمر الأوضح، أنه تشبّع أكثر بأفكار الثورة الفلسطينية ووجد نفسه أقرب إلى أكبر فصائلها في حينه، حركة فتح. وسرعان ما أتيحت له فرصة التدريب العسكري في مخيمات عدة، في بيروت وخارجها. وتأهّل عسكرياً ليكون في موقع آمر فصيل. لكن الدورة المفصليّة كانت في معسكر الزهراني «معسكر أبو لؤي»، المعسكر الذي تلقّت فيه الشهيدة دلال المغربي تدريباتها.

عماد وفتح

في مركزية فتح في الشياح، كان يقيم أبو حسن خضر سلامة (الشهيد علي ديب الذي اغتالته إسرائيل عام 1999)، وكان يعرف أيضاً بـ«أبو حسن البلاتين»، نسبةً إلى قضبان البلاتين المزروعة في أنحاء عدة من جسده نتيجة الإصابات المتكررة. أعجب الشاب اللبناني بعماد، ووجد فيه شاباً مناسباً للعمل المتطور. وفي وقت قصير، قرر أبو حسن تعيين عماد نائباً له.
بقي ضمن التشكيل حتى عام 1981. وسبب الخروج، عدم التزام عماد قرارات الحركة. ذلك أن الشاب المتديّن، تأثّر كثيراً بخطف الإمام الصدر.

وعندما تعرّض العلّامة فضل الله لمحاولة اغتيال على يد الاستخبارات العراقية في عام 1979، كوّن عماد وبعض رفاقه درعاً أمنية للسيّد محمد حسين فضل الله حيث سهروا على حمايته وإجراءاته الأمنية، ثم رافقه في رحلة إلى الحج في عام 1980. ومن حينها صار يعرف باسم «الحاج عماد».
وجاء استشهاد السيّد محمد باقر الصدر في العراق في نيسان 1980 منعطفاً في توجهاته. وجد نفسه أمام مسؤولية الوقوف في وجه البعث الخاضع لسلطة العراق. ويومها اتهم البعث باستهداف علماء الدين وقياديين في حركة أمل وما كان يعرف في ذلك الوقت باللجان الإسلامية. انخرط الحاج عماد في مواجهات مسلّحة مع البعثيين، ما أدى إلى انفصاله كلياً عن حركة فتح في النصف الأول من عام 1981.

الاجتياح الإسرائيلي

في حزيران من عام 1982 حصل الاجتياح الإسرائيلي للبنان وكان الحاج عماد في حينه يزور العتبات المقدسة في مشهد في إيران. فور سماعه النبأ، عاد الى سوريا ومنها الى لبنان، وفي الطريق اختطفته عناصر من الكتائب اللبنانية ثم أطلق سراحه بعد تدخّلات سياسية، ودخل بيروت ليلتقي مجدداً رفاقاً له من فتح وفصائل فلسطينية. وراح الحاج عماد يتنقّل من محور الى آخر، من خلدة الى كلية العلوم جنوب شرق بيروت، الى الكوكودي غرب الضاحية الجنوبية لبيروت، الى شاتيلا حيث أصيب في إحدى المواجهات بقدمه إصابة أقعدته في الفراش لفترة وجيزة، استأنف بعدها نشاطه مع الشهيد أبو جهاد (خليل الوزير) الذي كانت تربطه به علاقة وثيقة.

بعدما غادر القادة الفلسطينيون وفصائل الثورة الفلسطينية بيروت، تسنّى للحاج عماد معرفة مخازن أسلحة كثيرة. يومها، كوّن الحاج عماد مع رفاقه النواة الأولى لما بات يعرف لاحقاً بالمقاومة الإسلامية. وألّفت مجموعات للمقاومة في بيروت والبقاع الغربي والجنوب، بدأوا بشن سلسلة عمليات على دوريات للعدو، ونصب الكمائن وقنص الجنود وقصف التجمعات بالصواريخ.. إلى أن كانت باكورة العمليات النوعية للمقاومة الإسلامية بتاريخ 11/11/1982 حيث دمّر مقرّ الحاكم العسكري في مدينة صور في جنوب لبنان في عملية للاستشهادي أحمد قصير.

في تلك الفترة، لم ينقطع الحاج عماد عن أجواء الفصائل الفلسطينية، وبعد ترحيل قادة وكوادر ومقاتلين إلى تونس واليمن والسودان وانكفاء آخرين إلى سهل البقاع، بدأ الشرخ يبرز في العلاقات في ما بينهم، وشعر الحاج عماد بأنّ في مقدوره أداء دور توفيقي، فسعى إلى دفعهم نحو عمل مشترك بوجه إسرائيل فقط. وبحكم علاقته ومعرفته عن قرب بالكثير من المناضلين، قاد الحاج عماد عمليات مشتركة نفّذها مقاتلون من أحزاب لبنانية وآخرون فلسطينيون ومجموعات من المقاومة الإسلامية، وساهم الحاج عماد في تسليح العديد من فصائل المقاومة الوطنية والفلسطينية وتوفير الدعم اللوجستي لهم.

وعندما وقعت اشتباكات بين عدد من المخيمات الفلسطينية وحركة أمل، كان للحاج عماد دور يُشهد له في فض الاشتباكات وحل الإشكالات للحؤول دون تفاقم الأوضاع. وكثيراً ما تعرّض للمخاطر أثناء معالجة بعض الحالات الإنسانية الصعبة.

عام 1984 شهد أيضاً انفصال الحاج علي ديب (أبو حسن خضر سلامة) رفيق درب الحاج عماد عن حركة فتح، فانضمّ هو وتشكيلاته إلى المقاومة الإسلامية وكان سنداً للحاج عماد وذراعه اليمنى. تميّز أبو حسن بقلّة اهتمامه بالمناصب والمواقع التنظيمية. كان مشغولاً بالمهمات العملانية. وهو استمر كذلك حتى استشهاده في عام 1999 بتفجير العدو عبوة استهدفت سيارته في منطقة عبرا شرقي صيدا بعد محاولات عدة فاشلة لاغتياله.

مع أبو عمار وأبو جهاد

كان لشخصية الحاج عماد وقع محبّب ومكانة خاصة لدى الزعيم الفلسطيي الراحل ياسر عرفات، أبو عمار. حظي باحترامه وثقته رغم التباين الواسع في كثير من التوجهات والاقتناعات والرؤية في ما يتعلّق بأولويات الكفاح المسلح في مواجهة العدو. كان أبو عمار حريصاً على التواصل معه والوقوف على آرائه، وقد كان للحاج أبو حسن سلامة دور كبير في هذا المجال، إذ كان بمثابة الرسول بين الاثنين، فكان يلتقي بأبي عمار حاملاً رسائله الى الحاج، سواء أكان في تونس أم في اليمن أم في مصر، وكم كان يحلو لأبي عمار أن يخاطب الحاج عماد في رسائله «ولدي العزيز».
أمّا أبو جهاد، خليل الوزير، فلم تنقطع العلاقة بينه وبين الحاج عماد حتى تاريخ استشهاد أبو جهاد في تونس، وقد كان قناة ورسولاً خاصاً بينهما، ولا أحد يعرف متى يحين الوقت للحديث عنها.
يقول الحاج عماد: «كنت أعرف أنه لن يوافق على تسوية تطيح الحق الفلسطيني. وكلما كانت تطوّرات المواجهة بيننا وبين العدو تتقدّم صوب قرار إسرائيلي بالانسحاب من لبنان، كان «الختيار» يرسل الإشارات إلى الرغبة في الاستعداد لجولة جديدة من المواجهة مع الإسرائيليين في الداخل. صار أكثر اقتناعاً بالحاجة إلى استئناف العمل العسكري. أصلاً لم ينقطع التواصل معه. مرّت العلاقة بفترة عصيبة إثر اتفاقية أوسلو، لكننا كنا نعرف ماذا يجري من حوله، وكان هو يهتمّ بالاحتفاظ بصلة الوصل، كعادته، لم يكن يريد أن يقطع مع أحد. كان يقصد أحياناً شرح الموقف، وبعد انسحاب العدو من لبنان عام 2000، جاءت الرسالة الأساسية منه: أريد دعماً لوجستياً».

كان الحاج جالساً في مكتبه الخاص في قلب الضاحية الجنوبية عندما شرح لزائره أن حزب الله لم يكن يوماً عقبةً أمام أي نشاط لأي طرف في مجال المقاومة. سمع رأياً نقدياً وحتى اتهامياً بأن الحزب عمل مع سوريا على حصر المقاومة به. لم يكن الحاج انفعالياً، لكنه كان مستفَزاً في تلك اللحظة. سارع إلى شرح واقع الحال في لبنان والجنوب خلال فترة ما بعد توقف الحرب الأهلية. لم يكن يقبل بأي إشارة نقد إلى أي جهة أو فصيل له دور في المقاومة. كانت لديه معلومات تفصيلية عمّا فعله الآخرون من خارج حزب الله. لكنه شرح بالتفصيل، الواقع الذي دفع بكثير من القوى الأخرى إلى الانسحاب. لم ينف الظروف السياسية، لكنه قال بحزم: «تعرّضنا لكل أنواع القتل، والضغط، والحصار، والقطيعة، لكن قرارنا أولوية المقاومة وحمايتها كان فوق أي اعتبار آخر. ودافعنا بالدماء عن بقاء المقاومة».

بعد ذلك شرع الحاج رضوان بالحديث عن فلسطين. قال إن هدف حزب الله واضح، وهو إزالة إسرائيل. «ليس في الأمر جدل ولا مساومة، ونحن غير معنيين بأي قرار يتخذه أي طرف في العالم لمنح إسرائيل شرعية البقاء. ونحن لا نتحدث عن شيء غير واقعي. وإلى جانب اقتناعاتنا الدينية، لدينا الكثير من الأسباب العلمية التي تدفعنا الى الاقتناع أكثر، بأن زوال إسرائيل مسألة مرتبطة بما نفعله نحن، أهل فلسطين داخلها وفي محيطها وفي العالم العربي والإسلامي».

فجأة، وقف الحاج في مكانه، وشرع مع أحد مساعديه في البحث داخل خزانة عن مخطط لعمل استراتيجي. قال لزائره: «بعد التحرير عام 2000، وعندما تيسّر لنا التعرف أكثر إلى العدوّ وقدراتنا نحن، صار حلم تحرير فلسطين قابلاً للتحقق. لقد أنشأنا لجنة لإزالة إسرائيل. وفي المقاومة، عندنا، ثمة وحدة خاصة بفلسطين. نحن لا نقوم بالعمل عن الفلسطينيين، ولن نفعل ذلك. لكننا في موقع سياسي وأخلاقي وديني يوجب علينا توفير كل مستلزمات الدعم للمقاومين في فلسطين، ليس فقط لمساعدتهم على البقاء حيث هم الآن، بل لمقاومة الاحتلال ودفعه إلى الخروج ولو تدريجاً من الأراضي المحتلّة».
وللتوضيح أكثر، أشار الحاج رضوان، مع تنويه بأنه غير قادر على الإفاضة لأن تفاصيل كثيرة هي من أسرار العمل، إلى أن حزب الله لديه صلات قوية مع كل مجموعات المقاومة داخل فلسطين ودون أي استثناء. تحدث بقوة وودّ عن كتائب شهداء الأقصى، وقال إن «العلمانيين واليساريين في فلسطين كانوا من طليعة مَن عملنا معهم. لكن لدينا الآن تحالف استراتيجي مع حماس والجهاد الإسلامي ومع القوى الجدية في مقاومة الاحتلال». تابع: «نحن لا نقبل بأي شكل أن يقوم تنظيم في فلسطين يتبع لنا تنظيمياً أو إدارياً أو حتى دينياً. والذين اعتنقوا المذهب الشيعي، حاولوا معنا بقوة، العمل على إنشاء تنظيم أو فرع لحزب الله في فلسطين، فلم نقبل بذلك، ولن نقبل. نحن لم نجد في المقاومة خياراً للتحرير فقط، بل مكاناً تقتل فيه الفتنة، ويبتعد السجال المذهبي والطائفي والعقائدي، وتصبح الخلافات محصورة في كيفية تحقيق نجاحات على صعيد مقاومة الاحتلال».

الحضور الميداني في فلسطين

للحاج رضوان علاقة خاصة مع قيادات حماس والجهاد الإسلامي. كان حازماً في توفير الدعم المالي والإعلامي لانتفاضتي فلسطين ونسج علاقة متينة مع الشهيد الدكتور فتحي الشقاقي، الأمين العام السابق لحركة الجهاد. ثم ارتبط الحاج عماد بعلاقة وثيقة مع الدكتور رمضان عبد الله شلح الأمين العام للجهاد بعد الشقاقي، وبنى علاقات استثنائية مع قيادات حماس في الداخل والخارج، حتى إن البعض لا يعرف ربما، أن الحاج عماد، قبيل استشهاده بساعات، كان في اجتماع مع زعيم حماس خالد مشعل في حضور قياديين من الحركة في دمشق.

بعد استئناف التواصل مع أبو عمار، لم يغفل الحاج عماد الحاجة إلى حضور مباشر لمقاومين في الميدان. كان بالإضافة الى تعاون وثيق ومميز مع حماس والجهاد، يعمل على تأمين انتقال كوادر ومقاتلين من داخل فلسطين الى سوريا ولبنان وإيران لإخضاعهم لدورات عسكرية ومنحهم المعرفة والخبرة والدراسات اللازمة، ثم العمل على إعادتهم إلى الأراضي المحتلّة. وقد طوّرت قوى المقاومة في فلسطين آليات النقل هذه، برغم الحصار الذي كان النظام الأمني لحسني مبارك يفرضه عليهم.

وعندما كان الحاج عماد يشعر بالحاجة إلى الحضور المباشر، لم يكن يتردد في إرسال مَن يجب إرساله إلى الأراضي المحتلة. وقد نجحت إسرائيل، مرتين على الأقل، في كشف مقاومين من حزب الله واعتقالهم، سواء بجهود منها، أو بجهود عملاء لها داخل أجهزة أمن السلطة الفلسطينية، أو بسبب أخطاء واجهت المقاومين أنفسهم. لكن الحاج لم يكن يترك هؤلاء يعيشون لوقت طويل في السجون، وكان سعيه الدائم إلى تنفيذ عمليات أسر لجنود العدو، يقوى بحافز إطلاق هؤلاء الكوادر.

وقد مثّل تطور عمل حماس والجهاد داخل فلسطين المحتل، ونشوء العديد من التشكيلات النضالية والجهادية دافعاً مهمّاً للحاج عماد إلى التطوير، وتفرغ لإعداد الخطط والبرامج لدعم هذه الفصائل داخل فلسطين. وقد شرع في توفير مستلزمات مواجهة العدو تدريباً وتسليحاً ودعماً لوجستياً ومادياً، فأنشأ داخل المقاومة الإسلامية تشكيلاً خاصاً لفلسطين، وفّر له المستلزمات المطلوبة، وكان همّه تدريب الشباب الفلسطيني وإيصال السلاح إلى فلسطين، ولعله في داخله كان يردّ بعضاً من الجميل لرفاق الأمس الذين أمدّوه بالسلاح عند انطلاقة المقاومة الإسلامية في لبنان.

بعد توفير المقوّمات الأساسية للصمود العسكري على مستوى السلاح الخفيف والمتوسط لكل من حماس والجهاد وكتائب شهداء الأقصى واللجان الشعبية وكتائب أبو الريش وغيرها من الفصائل المقاومة، شرع الحاج عماد بتنفيذ قرار قيادة المقاومة الإسلامية توفير الدعم المفتوح للمقاومة في فلسطين. ووفّرت سوريا وإيران الدعم الإضافي والاستراتيجي، وشرع بتمكين المقاومين في فلسطين من إنتاج القدرة النوعية لمواجهة العدو سعياً إلى تحقيق توازن تكتيكي ونوعي مع العدو. ولم يكن يغفل عن بناء التشكيلات والتخصصات، كالمشاة وسلاح الهندسة والقناصة والوحدة المضادة للدروع والقوة الصاروخية، فضلاً عن بناء تشكيلات منظمة ونموذجية لخوض حرب عصابات مع جيش العدو. حتى إن قيادياً رفيعاً في كتائب عز الدين القسّام قال إن الحاج عماد كان شريكنا في حرب غزة.

لم يكن الحاج عماد يفرّق بين مقاوم وآخر. لم يدع سبيلاً الى فلسطين إلّا سلكه غير آبه بكل اللّاءات والممنوعات التي كانت تطوّق فلسطين قبل الأطواق المفروضة من العدو أسلاكاً وجدراناً، فلا عباب البحر ردّه ولا أمواجه العاتية، ولا وعورة الأرض والجبال والوديان حالت دون إيصال السلاح إلى فلسطين من فوق الأرض ومن... تحتها!

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مغنية في نظر مطارديه

في الثالث من الشهر الجاري عرضت القناة الثانية الإسرائيلية برنامج «عوفدا» وفيه تحقيق أعدّه «ساريت ماغِن» و«نعمه بيري» تشتمل تفاصيله على حكاية غير رسمية عن اغتيال الحاج عماد مغنية في دمشق، وفيه شهادات لعدد كبير من رجال الأمن البارزين في إسرائيل ومسؤولين وعملاء سابقين لوكالة الاستخبارات الأميركية، تحدّثوا عن مغنية ومواصفاته، والعمل على تعقّبه.
■ دافيد بركاي، مسؤول رفيع المستوى عمل سابقاً في وحدة الاستخبارات ينظر الى صورة مغنية ويقول: «هذا يخيفني بعض الشيء، وهو لا يزال يخيفني. لم يكن مغنية مخرّباً، بل كان استراتيجياً استخدم الإرهاب كجزء من استراتيجيته».
■ آمنون شاحاك رئيس هيئة الأركان سابقاً: «عماد مغنية كان جريئاً، وذكياً، ومثّل خطراً حقيقياً على دولة إسرائيل».
■ بوب بار عميل لـC I A في بيروت سابقاً: «فلنعترف بالحقيقة... مغنية كان عبقرياً. لا يمكن نفي هذا عنه. بالنسبة إليه لم يكن هناك شيء لا يستطيع الوصول إليه في لبنان... كل شخص وكل مكان».
■ ديفيد بار مسؤول سابق في الاستخبارات قال: «أحد الأمور المدهشة هو صوره التي ظهرت على مواقع كثيرة على شبكة الإنترنت. في الحقيقة هذه هي المرة الأولى التي أرى فيها الرجل يعرض نفسه لكاميرا، يرتدي نظارات حديثة، قصة شعر لطيفة، ولحيته مشذبة، وينظر إلى الكاميرا كأنه يقول: «أنا الآن شخص مشهور». وهذا لا يشبه أبداً «مغنية» الذي عرفته».
■ شبتاي شابيط الرئيس الأسبق للموساد: «لقد جمع بين الذكاء والمعرفة والقدرة المهنية والشجاعة والقدرة على التخطيط والاندماج في المنطقة، لذلك، فإنه من مستوى آخر، من مستوى مغاير. مغنية لم يكن مكشوفاً، لكن انعكاسه كان كأنه «ترومبلدور» (بطل يهودي) من مدة إلى مدة كان ينبثق فجأةً خبر ما بأنه هنا أو هنا أو هنا... هذا إضافةً إلى أنه نجح في تغيير مظهره».
■ «ط» ـــــ مسؤول سابق في المؤسسة الأمنية، كان هذا الضابط لا يتحدث عن «مغنية» فقط بل يعيشه، فقد طارده وكان ضمن الدائرة الضيقة جداً حين كانت عملية اصطياد مغنية في ذروتها، وقبل مدة أنهى عمله الناجح في أحد المناصب الرفيعة في جهاز الاستخبارات، و«مغنية» كان أحد آخر الملفات التي أقفلها»، وهو يقول عنه: «بالتأكيد، لقد عمل مع مجموعة صغيرة جداً من الأصدقاء الموثوق بهم، وكان رجلاً شديد الحذر بطريقة أساسية. أحياناً، فهمنا أن هذا الرجل هو رجل مركزي جداً، وأن المسّ به سيؤدي الى تضرر المنظمة نفسها والى جعله يدفع الثمن عن أمور كثيرة قام بها ضدنا».
■ دافيد بركائي، مسؤول كبير سابق في وحدة الاستخبارات: «لم يُسمع شيء عن الرجل، ولم يعلم أحد أين يقطن، ولم يعلم أحد أين سينام في اليوم التالي، كما لم يعلم أحد مع من ينام وأيّ دخان يدخن، وماذا يزعجه في الحياة».

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River to Sea Uprooted Palestinian

Friday, 11 February 2011

Pumped: The "Palestinian" IDIOT on domesticating Hamas

Two State Solution VS Two stage solution

 Jun 14, 2009


The donkey from Yankeevil PREYED: Beg....Beg....Beg....

Let me explain it to you Mr. politburo chief: Iran has clout and is a regional power, so Obama has to deal with it. Also, Iran (under the right conditions) has been beneficial to the Empire, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, so Obama is trying to put the ayatollahs to good use. Syria has some influence (especially in Lebanon) and Obama is trying to divide and conquer, by moving Syria away from Iran.

But Hamas, Mr. politburo chief, regardless of how much "moderation" it shows, and how much begging it does, has no clout, and is safely caged in the Gaza concentration camp while Dayton destroys any presence it has left in the West Bank.

By removing Iran and Syria from the equation, Hamas will be cut off and the plan is to destroy it or at least domesticate it, just as Arafat was domesticated and finally destroyed.

You got that now, Mr. politburo chief?

# posted by Tony : 11:01 PM



To highlight his double standard I would apply the his arguement "preying" on Lebanon.

Let me explain it to you "Sayyed Nasrallah": Iran has clout and is a regional power, so Obama has to deal with it. Also, Iran (under the right conditions) has been beneficial to the Empire, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, so Obama is trying to put the ayatollahs to good use. Syria has some influence (especially in Lebanon) and Obama is trying to divide and conquer, by moving Syria away from Iran.By removing Iran and Syria from the equation, "Hezbullah" will be cut off and the plan is to destroy it or at least domesticate it, just as Arafat was domesticated and finally destroyed.

You got that now, "sayyed Nasrallah"?

BTW, The donkey, who used to post Nasrallah's speeches in both Arabic and English ignored the last speech of Nasrallah. Most likely he is mad at him not only for losing election, but for dealing positively with the results.

However, I have to agree even with a preying donkey, on the half truth he preyed.

Yes Iran is a regional power. I would add that Iran smartly won 4 wars (Afghanistan, Iraq, Lebanon, Gaza) without shooting a single pullet. So contrary to the Donkey claimed it is the USA (under the right conditions) has been beneficial to the Regional power. Therefore Obama administration has to deal with Iran, and I claim that its the ayatollahs who would try to put Obama to good use.

And

Yes Obama is TRYING, actually trying hard with Iran and Trying with Syria, and shall try with Lebanon. I wonder why the Donkey is so sure that Obama's try shall succeed. Bosh tried to change the regimes in Both Iran and Syria, and failed, tried to destroy Hezbullah, and caged Hamas and failed.

The USA tried for 2 decades to divide and conquer, and failed to break the Syria, Iran strategic relation.

So, its the USA who bowed to both Syria and Iran, and Both are not stupid to dump their most powerful cards (Hezbullah and Hamas).

Yes Hamas as Mashaal said Hamas was in the midst of a difficult period. "We have reached difficult times. This is not an easy stage. Our rights have been violated, and we will present our vision."

Do I have to talk again about Geopolitics putting Hamas between the Zionists Hummer and Pharaoh's pad

The Question is: Would Hamas amid this difficult period bow and recognize Israel and sellout ROR.

I voted NO, and my pull shows that 92% voted NO.

Palestinians are split between two options

Fath option: Two state solution (Selling right of return)
and
Hamas option: Two Stage Solution
Benny Begin, a minister without portfolio and son of former premier Menahem Begin. said "If the only solution is two states for two peoples, then there is no solution," Begin insisted that the Palestinians were not after a two-state solution but wanted a "two-stage solution at the end of which there would be a single PLO-Hamas state."

I fully agree with Benny Begin. As long as Hamas exists chellenging the Legimity of Ramullah traitor, any two state solution without Hamas recognition is a stage shall lead at the to the other stage, the collaps of Zionism.

Therefore, Hamas state should be destroyed, or at least skould be domesticated.

Again, would Hamas bow?

Would Syria betray Hamas?
Let us connect the dots to see who bowed

"We are a player in the region. If you want to talk about peace, you can't advance without Syria." "you must deal with Syria on her terms". Bashar Al-assad Feb 18, 2009

'in order to achieve regional peace major parties including Hamas and Hezbollah must be included in the talks." Bashar Al-assad March 11, 2009

The United States has presented Egypt and Israel with a plan meant to end the Israeli-Palestinian conflict within two years, based on the two-state solution, the London-based al-Sharq al-Awsat newspaper reported Tuesday. Obama administration is trying to push forward not only about peace between Israel and the Palestinians, but also peace between Israel and both Syria and Lebanon.

On the Israeli side Peres Called for Palestinian State with Temporary Borders . Freezing settlements is rejected and Netanyahu is expected to "present a few conditions for the implementation of the road map, above all a Palestinian recognition of “Israel” as the homeland of the Jewish people. He will also demand that the future Palestinian state be demilitarized."

Again, would Hamas bow??

What about the 1948 Arabs?

Carter visited damuscuss to check the waters, he met Mashaal who expressed his Hope that Obama may Cancels Conditions for Talks with Hamas, [Recognition of Israel and giving up ROR]
Mashaal also expressed his determination to cooperate, positively, with "any international and regional effort which will lead to a just solution (Iwould call it also a 2 stage soltion):


  • end the Israeli occupation,
  • achieve the Palestinian people's national rights,
  • the establishment of an independent Palestinian state with Jerusalem as its capital,
  • the return of refugees,
  • the removal of settlements and real sovereignty in the ground, on the crossings and in the air."
Carter concluded: Mideast Peace Not Possible without Hamas. He called Obama from Damucuss to talk directly to Hamas.
Some will consider that a sign that Hamas may bow.
Here I would ask: What about the uprooted Palestinians specially in Lebanon taking into consideration the Lebanese Vetto on Settling Palestinians.
It is Lebanon's Lahoud who insisted to put the ROR in the Arab peace initiative. In Lebanon, despite the victory of March 14 movement, the US is disappointed.
"Lebanon is likely to slide again into a political crisis over the formation of the next government, similar to the one that battered the country for the last four years. The new government should rule the country based on a policy statement that would set its fixed standards and govern its conduct for the next four years. It goes without saying that the most complicated issues on the statement will be the legitimacy of the resistance and its weapons on the one hand and the settlement of Palestinian refugees.
"Hezbollah, which stands firmly with the right of return of Palestinian refugees, has warned that the next government must vow not to touch the arms of the resistance, period. "
Hariri declared that he is ready to give Nasrallah all gaurantees for its arms. Carter said, “Oh, I don’t think Hezbollah’s going to create any problems for Obama, or for Lebanon. I think they’re satisfied to maintain the status quo.”
But, "On the other hand, Hezbollah’s ally, Aoun, who continues to lead the Christian majority in Lebanon with more impetus, is a fierce opponent to any project aimed at settling Palestinians in Lebanon."
Can Hariri Gurantee that setlling is not going to happen??
"The project to settle Palestinian refugees in Lebanon would surely mean that the country would transform into a confederation; the kind of state some key poles in the March 14 alliance, namely Lebanese Forces chief Samir Geagea, have been envisioning...... the project to transform the country into a confederation where Palestinians, Sunnis, Shiites, Christians and minorities would live in ghettos has permanently failed."




lu said...





I'm in agreement with you, UP

I've just read an interesting article "Mishal’s Luck" (actually it is a book review). All Palestinians should know about Hamas's history. It has already known difficult times in the past when Arafat, acting as surrogate police for the settler state, tortured them and pointed at them the guns he had received from the garrison state. Hamas was much smaller and weaker then, however it survived and became far more stronger. Any Palestinian should know -and the "Meshal's Luck" article recalls it, in case anyone has forgotten, what was the core idea for Meshal and for Hamas's foundation. Hamas will not bow and will never waive the RoR or any other sacred palestinian right. They won't follow on Arafat's steps -as A.A. sometimes says and others repeat- just because that is precisely the reason why Hamas was established in the first place, to strengthen the home front, retake the path of the resistance and keep away of Arafat's zio-options.

Besides, the Hamas leaders made an oath before Allah in this regard and it won't be breached, much the less for these people who are true to their religious beliefs.

So, to sum up:

-Considering Hamas was not destroyed under Dahlan's savage repression, when it was much weaker

-Considering it was not destroyed under Arafat's rule, he being far more charismatic than the uncharismatic and illegitimate Abbas

-Considering that Hamas is well aware of Egypt's (and Jordan) old record of betraying the Palestinians.

-And considering the core principles under which Hamas was created,

then, it won't be Egypt who will subdue them; much the less a pathetic cretin and traitor like Abbas.

Consequently,decent people in Fatah (and I hope there are still many), either refund their party AND join hands with Hamas towards the common cause, or else they´ll go down to the dustbin of history.

By the way, I've read a zio-article (not sure if it was on the J-Post) indicating that Abbas had presented Obama a "final plan" based on the Saudi initiative and the roadmap, signed in support by several arab regimes as well as by the EU. The article adds that Abbas had informed Syria about it, but she refused to sign. So, despite what the Syrian bashers tend to think, there's no Syrian sell out of the Palestinians for the time being.

6:51 PM, June 11, 2009
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The donkey preyed on every occasion about domesticated Hamas, But he never dared to prey about domesticated Hezbullah.