American investigative journalist and former National Security Agency employee, Wayne Madsen, says Obama, as well as his family, including his parents, step-father, and grandmother, had connections with the CIA and other wealthy elites such as the Rothschild and Rockefeller families.
Madsen has put together an extensive three-part series with conclusive proof and documentation that Barack Obama Sr., Stanley Ann Dunham (Obama's mother), Lolo Soetoro (the Indonesian stepfather of Barack Obama) and Barack Obama himself all hold deep ties to the CIA and a larger intelligence community. Madsen has been using publicly available data bases for his work on Obama.
Obama's supporters have been very careful to keep his history hidden by clamping down his high school records, college records, passport, and his birth certificate. Barry Soetoro was an alias for Barack Obama and this was the name registered at the Fransiskus Assisi School in Jakarta, Indonesia.
Press TV conducted an interview with Madsen, the author of the report on Obama's CIA connection. The following is the rush transcript of the interview.
Press TV: Wayne, please give a quick summary of what you have found during your investigation?
Madsen : Well all the focus has been on Obama's birth certificate and I think the White House is very happy with the people going there. I happen to believe he was born in Hawaii. I don't think there is anything there with birth certificate, but there is something there with his background which has a lot of holes.
Even in the book that he wrote, he said he went to work for a company after graduating from Colombia in 1983. Well, it turns out that this company was Business International Corporation which is the company that used journalists as cover; that came from the son of the founder of the company Eldridge Haynes. We also see Obama travelling to Pakistan from Indonesia during the time of the build up of the US against the Soviet Union during the Mujaheddin war in Afghanistan. (The term refers to Afghan Mujaheddin who battled the Soviet army from 1979 to 1989, when the Soviets withdrew in defeat. The Soviets invaded Afghanistan in December 1979 in order to provide support for a recently installed pro-Soviet Prime Minister, Babrak Karmal.)
His mother was also in Pakistan after being in Indonesia working for a number of different outfits many of whom had been linked to the CIA. We know that his mother, two years after a bloody coup, which was enabled by his step-father Lolo Soetoro, was called back to duty in Indonesia by General Suharto. His mother took young Obama there at the age of seven into a country that had just witnessed a terrible massacre of up to a million people, mostly ethnic Chinese, and actual and alleged members of the Indonesian communist party.
When I worked at the records of what the CIA was doing, I just came out today with another report showing that his college, Occidental College, where he went from 1979 to 1981, had an active CIA recruitment program going on when he was there. One of the recruiters in a document stated that 70 students showed up and they were going enthusiastic about the future career with the Central Intelligence Agency. So we have all these links and Obama not really stating much about these links even in his own autobiography.
I am not a left or right in this argument. I have gone through the CIA document; they speak for themselves. Just because someone works for the CIA, it does not mean that they are on the same side as Bill O'Reilly or Sarah Palin.
As a matter of fact, has the International Corporation existed to make outreach to Communist leaders around the world including Premier Kosygin of the Soviet Union, or President Shevchenko of Romania, Samuel Mashael in Mozambique? They also did outreach to right wing leader Suharto of course, and Francisco Franco of Spain and this was an attempt and that we know there are many other attempts by the CIA through the National Student Association. We are talking about early 60s now when there was a great conflict between the United States and the Soviet Union for influence in Africa and Obama's father, Barack senior, was part of that influence.
Press TV : Wayne, why would the CIA incorporate such an elaborate plan to have two CIA agents marry each other, Obama's parents, then to have a child who is reared from the beginning by the CIA? Why couldn't the CIA simply train someone to do this, if it's really true?
Madsen: Well this happens all the time within the CIA. You see entire families growing up in the CIA culture. It is not just something that would have happened to President Obama. But we see how CIA has been around since 1947. We see the third generation now at the CIA, the third generation of some families. So that is not an unusual thing to happen.
And I would note that when Obama left Chicago to go to Pakistan, not only was he in Pakistan, but he was being hosted by many top level Pakistani families including the Soomro family. His friend Soomro replaced Pervez Musharraf; when he stepped down, he replaced him as the acting president. It was not that he was just there back-packing around. He was there being hosted by some of the top level families in Pakistan, and in those days Pakistan was, of course, a CIA supported dictatorship just like where he grew up in Indonesia under Suharto; it, too, was a CIA-supported dictatorship.
This is the environment he grows up in. We now know that the CIA had an active recruitment program in Occidental [College], and we are told that he also took classes at Colombia that were thought in part by Brzezinski who had been the National Security Advisor under President Carter (Zbigniew Brzezinski was the US National Security Adviser from 1977 to 1981).
We see so many links that he denied. There's not a whole lot of people around any more who can talk about Obama. His mother died very young. His father died in Kenya in 1982 in an auto accident. His grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, died two days before he was elected president in Los Angles. His grandfather, Stanley Dunham, died also back in the 90s. There is no one we could go to other than President Obama, to get him to talk more clearly and more exactly about his own background and he has failed to do so even in the book he said he has written.
Press TV: Talk to me about the connection that you had, you've written a report, to the current Secretary of Treasure, Tim Geithner? Can you expand on that?
Madsen : Peter Geithner, the father of Timothy Geithner, the US Treasury Secretary, basically was in charge of the grand program for the Ford Foundation, when Stanley and Dunhum, his mother, were in Indonesia.
Going through CIA archives, I found that the person who was in charge of the micro payments to farmers in Java where Obama's mother worked. His cover was economic officer at the US embassy in Jakarta. It wasn't her idea. The CIA has that program in place since 1958, according to a document I received from the Indonesian permanent mission to the United Nations that same year. So this was a program she went into. It is not a program that she started, but we have heard otherwise President Obama himself that she started this program. That program was in place and was used through the asepsis of US agency for international development which is known far and wide as being the CIA front for many third world countries.
Press TV: What do you tell people who say it is a conspiracy theory?
Madsen : Well it is not my job as an investigative reporter to boost President Obama. I am investigating President Obama as I investigated George W. Bush and Bill Clinton. The president of the United States is not some sort of monarch, where you are not allowed to investigate the person and report what you have found out. We have a long tradition of mock raking journalism in this country, going back to Jack Anderson and Andrew Peterson.
I think there is something lacking now. Somebody writes something that is not being talked about by Chris Mathews or David Gregory, or all the other talking heads are considered the conspiracy theory, saying you are not on board with the president. Well that is not the job of an investigator to be on board with the president. I know fully well that the White House press office has told reporters in the White House press court that they are not to ask questions about Obama's background, or else, they find themselves without a press pass.
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