Saturday, 20 February 2010

Mary Rizzostine, thecutter, needs your attention - Updated

THE UPDATE

I am pumping/Updating this thread to contain recent
comments of Mary Rizzostine, the Jewish thought Police at PTT. She called me MISTER CENSOR!
Moving her comments to main page and providing a link to her original comlplete comment proves that she is a Liar. I challanged her to give me an equal chance at her site and she refused. I was expecting that. but I wanted to show you who is calling me MISTER CENSOR,

BTW, I am not looking to appear at her site, be a star over the net. I am not the person sending e-mails to people to see me on TVs.


Mary Rizzo on Press TV "Remember the Children of Palestine" this Tuesday‏

From: mary rizzo




Sent:October 31, 2009 11:16:40 AM




Moreover, I am not calling editors to appear at my site. Once upon a time the Queen of Rizzostan invited me and I ignored the Invitation,

(Would you to be on Palestine Think Tank's Website of the Week?‏

From: mary rizzo

Sent:July 29, 2009 1:16:22 PM


To:

Attachments: 1 attachment

site ques...doc (23.5 KB)

Dear Editors,

we've got a new feature on Palestine Think Tank
http://www.palestinethinktank.com/ which features a website each week. If you
would like to be featured, please take the time to respond to the
short questions you find attached.

If you have a webshot to send, that would be good as well (send it as
a direct open email, not an attachment if possible!) Take your time,
we are hoping to round up material and only one will be published
each week. If you have any recommendations, let us know.
thanks so much

mary)

The Pumped Post
Mary Rizzostine, thecutter, needs your attention



Mary Rizzo, thecutter, the Queen of Cencership said...
UP is a censor!
This great! So, just go to PTT to see the original comment that he is SO AFRAID TO PRINT! He of course doesn't want the truth to be out there.

WHAT a joker!
=======================
Click on PTT to read her Comment at her site. As you are there, read Haithem's Article and the whole debate.
BTW, I posted and commented on the previous comment she dropped here.

uprooted Palestinian said...

Since few days I am moderating the Blog, to stop Anons complements and their comercial advertisements.

Today Cute Queen of Rizostine, using the name (Cuter) dropped a comment. I shall post parts of it:

"Even people in wheelchairs should not be insulted. You might think it's cute, but believe me, it isn't.................."
My Queen: You I am not insulting People in Wheelchais. I ment wheelchaired "Free" Minds. BTW, Shaikh Ahmad Yasin was assasinated in his Wheelchair. Also I have seen a great Jewish Lady among Gaza Free Marsh activists.

"Regarding Hamas and Galloway... if Galloway knows that giving money to Hamas is illegal in the USA, he promised the VP USA people he would work through NGOs, but then gave money to Hamas on camera... "
Is the Queen mad for USA people or for Giving the Aid to Hamas?.

MY "Queen" Galloway, and all the Activists who brought Aid to Gaza, including Free Gaza Movement gave the Aid to the Elected Legal Goverment, and it Happened, Like it or GO TO HELL, that Hamas is that Govenment.

So My Queen, Why you (Using your term, Singling Gallaway and His VIVA Palestinia??
"Anyway, I got a bit tired of reading your invention of the PTT narrative. Have all the fun you want, but the truth is totally different than how you depict it! ENJOY!!!"

BTW, the Cutter, has three Dead Blogs.
So She is worried about the Forth

Related Links:
River to Sea
Uprooted Palestinian

THE DEBATE

mundosonhos said...

I just want to clarify something...

UP, are you suggesting that Mary is ANTI-Hamas? And are you claiming this because she questions Galloway's wisdom in publicising money given to Hamas, due to the fact that the people who contributed that money are now likely to be persecuted by the US govt, possibly even detained?

Please clarify.

2:04 PM, February 18, 2010

uprooted Palestinian said...

Q: "UP, are you suggesting that Mary is ANTI-Hamas?"

A: I would say yes, as far as I know, she supports PFLP, and can't think out of the secular box.

Q: And are you claiming this because she questions Galloway's wisdom in publicising money given to Hamas, due to the fact that the people who contributed that money are now likely to be persecuted by the US govt, possibly even detained?

A: No, not because of that. I participated in debates at PTT and in both she acted as the lawyer of satan, defding Hamas Bashers (Haitham and sami Jadallaf). She repeated/blessed Haitham's Claims and Egypt, Zionist Propaganda on Hamas allowing Drug trafficking, terrorists smuggling, Justifying the Siege of Gaza as long as Hamas contol Gaza. Denied Hamas Victory in foiling all the Israli War goals.

AS for Galloway, she and her fellows claim that he has another Agenda. They hate his other agenda. The Agenda of Supporting Resistance. I support that agenda, and can't immagine that he could have done it without the great support from Turkey, Syria, and I would say Iran.

I wonder, why you are so sure that the people who contributed money are now likely to be persecuted by the US govt, possibly even detained?

Do you really think there is a big differance between Galloway's publicising or not puplicising money given to Hamas.
Hamas is the elected Authority in Palestine, and FACT on Ground in Gaza.


5:35 AM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

Well MISTER CENSOR! Didn't like the revelations, did you? That Gilad Atzmon agreed with Haitham, that he doesn't know you from Adam and his interaction with you is just the mailer he sends to his people on his mailing list, along, of course with his "disapproval" of your smear campaign and his being taken off of PTT and NOT his leaving. But those who come to knock on PTT will read all of that.

Right now, let me respond to your stupidity here!

Q: "UP, are you suggesting that Mary is ANTI-Hamas?"

A: I would say yes, as far as I know, she supports PFLP, and can't think out of the secular box.

Mary: well, you are obviously quite dim and as a matter of fact, know nothing about me, about how I think or what I even believe in. I do of course personally support PFLP, and since I am not a Palestinian living where I can vote, that means JACK. However, I ALSO support Hamas, and you can see it if you read the site! I have written volumes on them, including the paper about the myths circulating regarding Hamas. It was published in 8 languages and on hundreds of sites, including sites that are Hamas affiliated. I was thanked for it by persons in the party and they have invited me to be a guest to meet and interview them. So far, have had to turn it down, but one day will be happy to accept the offer. As you might guess, it's not easy to "get away with" something like that, and your idol Gilad never even went so far, know why? In Europe and in the USA, they are on the blacklist and I am sure he would like to continue his freedom of movement. He supports them "as the Palestinian choice", I go a bit farther. I was the translator and circulated the Recognise Resistance campaign to get them and Hez off the blacklist. What did YOU do, mister Secular Box?

Q: And are you claiming this because she questions Galloway's wisdom in publicising money given to Hamas, due to the fact that the people who contributed that money are now likely to be persecuted by the US govt, possibly even detained?

A: No, not because of that. I participated in debates at PTT and in both she acted as the lawyer of satan,

Mary: You really don't know how to read, do you, UP? I defend my own positions, and what are they? Defending resistance. When there is to disagree with someone, I do it, no matter who they are. There was Gilad telling me to not disagree in public with him, reserving that right to himself, but I have disagreed with everyone there and know what, they are able to take it!

more follows, censor allowing, naturally!

11:48 AM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

UP: defding Hamas Bashers (Haitham and sami Jadallah).

Mary: again, you are out of your mind. "Hamas bashers".... would you like to see what the editor of Redress wrote to me the other day when we discussed my paper on Hamas, which he thought was too full of praise for them? Here it is: - On Hamas, yes, at the moment it's the better of two evils it does not yet suffer from the corruption and complete lack of principle that permeates Fatah. But let us not get carried away romanticizing about Hamas. They are first and foremost and Islamist party for whom creating an Islamic state is a primary goal -- as important for them as ridding Palestinians of the Israeli occupation. As a Muslim, I have no hesitation in saying that an Islamic state would be a disaster for Palestinians (Muslims and Christians), other Arabs and other Muslims. And it would be a calamity for Palestinian women. Ordinary people who support the principle of an Islamic state do not know what it means in practice.

So, where does this leaves us now? I think that tactically we have to support Hamas's struggle against Israel but not the goal of an Islamic state. At the moment, there are no alternative Palestinian parties -- the PFLP, PFLP-GC and DFLP are too small and irrelevant to make any difference to the occupation, and they don't have enough support among ordinary Palestinians. -

Put that in your pipe and smoke it UP; or are you going to start a flame war with Mohammed and Redress too???

last part follows (censor allowing, naturally!!)

11:48 AM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

UP: She repeated/blessed Haitham's Claims and Egypt,

Mary: I blessed things? I said Haitham was right about the problem of the Westerners thinking they could agree on a route with Egypt in Europe and once there not do it and claim that Egypt changed the rules. This was entirely wrong and deceptive and there are three people dead on account of it, and not only, Egypt tightened its grip, which was predictable! NICE strategy!

UP: Zionist Propaganda on Hamas allowing Drug trafficking, terrorists smuggling,

Mary: do you know how to read? the stuff about the trafficking came from Sources quoting people from Hamas who were upset about the Salafitic infiltrates. You have the links! Why do you refuse to read the truth if it clashes with your cartoon-like image of the world??? I did not justify the Egyptian block, nor their wall, but I said that Hamas even killed people (all in an Arabic source which you and Bilal were given!) who were involved in drug trafficking between Egypt and Israel. Sorry if you don't know how to look at facts and information!! ( an Adition -FACTS OF ALAZHAR RABBI)

UP: Justifying the Siege of Gaza as long as Hamas contol Gaza.

Mary: YOU REALLY have your head up your ARSE! I have been campaigning against the siege probably as long if not longer than you have, and I find NO reason to justify it and have written so on hundreds of occasions! If you break the siege, you go and break it, you don't make DEALS!

UP: Denied Hamas Victory in foiling all the Israli War goals.

Mary: huh?

(more will follow, to the good graces of Mr Censor)

11:49 AM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

UP: AS for Galloway, she and her fellows claim that he has another Agenda.

Mary: he may have another agenda. He is not favourable to Arab nationalism, nor does he presume that the next leader of the movement has got to be Palestinian or even Arab. This looks apparent. It may not be so. He may have other interests as well. In fact, time will tell....

UP: They hate his other agenda. The Agenda of Supporting Resistance.

Mary: oh heroic UP! How wonderful you are the ONLY one who supports the Resistance! You are the ultimate joker!!

UP: I support that agenda, and can't immagine that he could have done it without the great support from Turkey, Syria, and I would say Iran.

Mary: "he", yes, your hero does all the work, of course, with anyone but Arabs!

UP: I wonder, why you are so sure that the people who contributed money are now likely to be persecuted by the US govt, possibly even detained?

Mary: Because, if you know something about law, which Galloway should, you will realise that THE DEAL HE MADE with the VP USA people was to "deliver goods, not cash, to an NGO" and he did this because according to United States law, any party (person or org) donating to any party on the Blacklist is violating the law and will be held accountable. He is aware that organisations and individuals stressed the importance of this. They do not agree with their law, but they are aware of the dire consequences of violating it, and these were the terms. Galloway obviously obtained many contributions, in the name of individuals and orgs and he gave his word that he would abide by their request. Since he made sure he handed MONEY over, ON CAMERA to Hamas and not to an NGO as per accord, what happened? Well, let me tell you what happened, the next day two orgs in California were investigated for violation of the law of financing terrorist orgs, one of them was closed down and still others are now being investigated. If you don't think that some people are really angry, you are wrong. So, you see, one should never make agreements with someone if they aren't going to respect their part of the agreement so as to avoid terrible consequences! Did all the money go to the people that were promised it? Did the MRI get bought? We read on twitter of the 47 "brand new vehicles" and some other things... makes you kind of wonder what is going on, and transparency counts, even if it IS filthy lucre.

UP: Do you really think there is a big differance between Galloway's publicising or not puplicising money given to Hamas.

Mary: uhm, yes. Read the above. There is a very big difference and those who live in countries where this could be a criminal activity know the difference.

UP: Hamas is the elected Authority in Palestine, and FACT on Ground in Gaza.

Mary: DUH. Talk about saying the obvious. But, again, if you are a smart person, you will be able to support the people of Gaza, the elected Authority as well and do it in a way that will not endanger those who will and have contributed funding. You can imagine that collecting funds in the USA after the debacle has been more than complicated. All to the detriment of the Palestinian people.

Hope these answers will be published MR Censor!

11:50 AM, February 19, 2010

uprooted Palestinian said...

"Hope these answers will be published MR Censor!"

My, "Queen" you shall never drag me into your wars with others. Because, I am not a part of it, and because, day, by day I am discovering that you are pretty miserable human being… who thinks she could drag me into wars "with Mohammed and Redress too???"

BTW, who is Mohammed??

My "Queen" All your answers are already published, by Mister "Censor" who never acted as a Police of thought, who never asked anybody to leave, because he don't like his opinion.

Enjoy your fellow contributors such as JAD calling Natto to "liberate Gaza", Such as the other Guy calling, Galloway, and Gaza March movement, to apologize to Pharaoh, and the other PFLP guy, "terrified" that breaking the siege is an invitation for an Israeli invasion that could reach Cairo.

I am sure he knows that it will never happen, and if it happens, it could be the End of Israel. The Guy is really terrified, because most likely the alternative for Pharaoh is an Islamic state lead by Muslim Brothers.

My "Queen":

Thanks for revealing your true color without "hesitation.

""As a Muslim, I have no hesitation in saying that an Islamic state would be a disaster for Palestinians (Muslims and Christians), other Arabs and other Muslims. And it would be a calamity for Palestinian women. Ordinary people who support the principle of an Islamic state do not know what it means in practice"

Thanks for providing a direct answer to mundosonh"
My comments on your statement are as follows: (AN ADDITION - I should have said your quote, I am sure despite who said it, it reflect your new stand. Being the Moderator at PTT You can't say I haven't said that, while censoring the other opinion, diagreeing with your boys??)

You are a big liar: You are not a Muslim. I guess behind that black eye glasses we have an ugly Jew.

Yes, like the Islamic revolution in Iran was and still a disaster for Usrael, an Islamic state in Palestine is a disaster, not only for Ramallah Traitors, Pharaoh, all Arab Puppets, Usrael, but also for and SMART (Coward) Extra-Ordinary THINK Thanks.

You said it and many thanks for that.

"I think that tactically we have to support Hamas's struggle against Israel but not the goal of an Islamic state."

Let me complete your statement: As our support shall help the Goal of an Islamic state, as Siege and war failed to put Hamas to its knees and to trigger a third Intifada against Hamas failed, we lost our temper (What's wrong with Palestinians?)

On seeing the Free Fall of Ramallah Traitors and their Puppets in PFPL and DFLP, despite our "written volumes on" Hamas, we are obliged to reveal our true color, our Tactical Agenda to Change the OBVIOUS (The democratic choice of the "Ordinary" Palestinians), by justifying the siege under different slogans, and mocking the real activist, who stratigically support the palestinian rights and their democrativ choice.

I am not putting words in your mouth, I am digging, reading between the your lines and lies

Real activisits, Galloway Likes, despite the " terrible consequences", decided to act physically on ground, to break the siege, expose collaborator, Thus putting their lives at risk.

My "Queen"

Mr. Sensor, though you denied his right to speak at your site, despite advices to ignore a sick human beings looking for attention, shall give you the honor to appear at the main page, so that readers know who YOU REALLY have his/her head and her black eye glasses head up his/her secular ARSE! I mean box.

But my "Queen", would you give me the same chance at Rizzostine.

UP the "censor"

4:13 PM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

funny guy, I almost started to give you some credit, even though you censored yesterday's comment. But then I read this idiocy.

UP: my, "Queen" you shall never drag me into your wars with others.

Mary: then what's your smear campaign against me all about then? someone disagree with you and you tear them to smithereens! (It's against you Agenda)

UP: BTW, who is Mohammed??

Mary: the editor of Redress who you "dissect and attack" below. That quote you tear apart is HIS opinion. Not mine. (I am hitting the message, not the messenger, it's you who brought the quote to support your Agenda)

UP: My "Queen" All your answers are already published, by Mister "Censor" who never acted as a Police of thought,

Mary: not yesterday's! It's up on PTT. NOT here! where you have an edited version. Look, your right to do it, I don't say no, but don't label someone with the label you yourself deserve.

UP: Enjoy your fellow contributors

Mary: indeed, people can say what they want. None of us are required to agree with it and we express when we do, like civil persons.

UP: My "Queen":

Thanks for revealing your true color without "hesitation.
all the rest is by the guy who runs Redress, it's not me, so deal with it. (THE GUY WHO RUNS REDRESS WROTE IT TO YOU NOT TO ME, ITS YOU WHO PUPLISHED IT HERE)

"As a Muslim, I have no hesitation in saying that an Islamic state would be a disaster for Palestinians (Muslims and Christians), other Arabs and other Muslims. And it would be a calamity for Palestinian women. Ordinary people who support the principle of an Islamic state do not know what it means in practice"

Thanks for providing a direct answer to mundosonh"

My comments on your statement are as follows:

You are a big liar: You are not a Muslim. I guess behind that black eye glasses we have an ugly Jew.

Mary: oooh, that's nice!

4:34 PM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

oh, and you ask if you'd get a chance at Rizzostein to be smeared on the front page?

no, honestly, for as much as you seem to be interested in me, I don't think that others are and I don't think your flame war tactic by using strawman fallacies ALWAYS with other people's quotes is really something I want to be bothered with.


So, no. Won't do a flame war on PTT against you.

4:43 PM, February 19, 2010

uprooted Palestinian said...

No Surprise,

I was testinig the water I and others experienced in Rizzostine.

Now, readers know who is the Censor.

As for my interest in you, I am finished with your, after you dropped the the last fig leaf. The Queen is Naked Completely naked except the Black Eye Glasses.

5:07 PM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

Hard to admit you are wrong, isn't it, UP? So you end with some silly little insult that I can't understand. never mind. It's not important.

glad you are finished with me in your little flame war crusade, (but of course you aren't) because hiding behind yourself and "others" and not addressing ANY of my own (MY OWN) comments doesn't really work to get anything done except make you feel like you are pleasing somebody who frankly, isn't pleased. Everyone who wants to follow your flame war can and they can see that all you do is attack others and get little interesting discourse out of it. You use the quotes of others to attack me, and it only undermines any credibility you might have had.

wish you good luck because you probably are well meaning in your efforts, you just seem to think that the way to do it is to shoot down anyone who gets under your skin or says anything you don't like.

5:24 PM, February 19, 2010

uprooted Palestinian said...

Yes my "Queen": I am finished with you.

You dropped the Mask.

AGAIN:

Thanks for revealing your true color without "hesitation.

""As a Muslim, I have no hesitation in saying that an Islamic state would be a disaster for Palestinians (Muslims and Christians), other Arabs and other Muslims. And it would be a calamity for Palestinian women. Ordinary people who support the principle of an Islamic state do not know what it means in practice"

Thanks for providing a direct answer to mundosonh"

My comments on your statement are as follows:

You are a big liar: You are not a Muslim. I guess behind that black eye glasses we have an ugly Jew.

Yes, like the Islamic revolution in Iran was and still a disaster for Usrael, an Islamic state in Palestine is a disaster, not only for Ramallah Traitors, Pharaoh, all Arab Puppets, Usrael, but also for and SMART (Coward) Extra-Ordinary THINK Thanks.

You said it and many thanks for that.

"I think that tactically we have to support Hamas's struggle against Israel but not the goal of an Islamic state."

Let me complete your statement: As our support shall help the Goal of an Islamic state, as Siege and war failed to put Hamas to its knees and to trigger a third Intifada against Hamas failed, we lost our temper (What's wrong with Palestinians?)

On seeing the Free Fall of Ramallah Traitors and their Puppets in PFPL and DFLP, despite our "written volumes on" Hamas, we are obliged to reveal our true color, our Tactical Agenda to Change the OBVIOUS (The democratic choice of the "Ordinary" Palestinians), by justifying the siege under different slogans, and mocking the real activist, who stratigically support the palestinian rights and their democrativ choice.

I am not putting words in your mouth, I am digging, reading between the your lines and lies

Real activisits, Galloway Likes, despite the " terrible consequences", decided to act physically on ground, to break the siege, expose collaborator, Thus putting their lives at risk.

The Issue is resisting the Zionism

And you admitted that Hamas is that resistance.

On that you said:

"oooh, that's nice!"

It's DONE

6:46 PM, February 19, 2010

thecutter said...

UP, is your nurse on holiday and can't keep up with your meds?

I said Oh that's nice to your comment about an ugly Jew. It was such a nice comment!

The rest of your rant is against the words OF ANOTHER HUMAN BEING. NOT ME! Tear them apart, but they are the response that *I* got from someone in a reputable site run by a Muslim in London who responded in that way to my Hamas article. It's HIS point of view on it. It may be hard for you to read with all that blood rushing to your head, UP, but try it, and you might stop stumbling further into your little pit.

It looks like you're "finished with me!?" not!

take care of yourself, someone really should be serving you a hot toddy right about now.

7:50 PM, February 19, 2010

uprooted Palestinian said...

mundosonhos.

I have nothing more to say. As I said before I am not suggesting that Mary is ANTI-Hamas because she questioned questioned Galloway's wisdom. As far as I know, and she confirmed in her own words, she was Pro-hamas.

Read Her words (QUOTE):

"At the moment, there are no alternative Palestinian parties -- the PFLP, PFLP-GC and DFLP are too small and irrelevant to make any difference to the occupation, and they don't have enough support among ordinary Palestinians."

Notice that Mary put PFLP-GC in the same basket with PFLP, and DFLP, the Last two are on the Abass's Payroll.

Insread of saying they don't have support among the Mojority of palestinians, she said among ordinary Palestinians. Its not dificult to guess who are the EXTRA-ORDINARY PALESTINIANS.

Joseph Massad called them the Elite

"What the elite did not anticipate was that they could lose control to Hamas, a public opponent of the Oslo process that in accordance with expectations had boycotted the 1994 gerrymandered and Fatah- controlled elections. The 2006 elections, which Fatah was confident it would win, constituted an earthquake that could destroy all these structural guarantees and with them the "process" they were designed to protect. "

Frightened that hamas may bring an Islamic state, Mary and her boys, changed the course, and revealed their true color.

If the choice between Hamas and Abbas, the extra-ordinary think thanks chosed Abbas, and consequently Rafah border should remain closed until the return of Dahlan, or the arrival of Nato. If the choice is Pharaoh or muslim brother, they prefer Paharaoh, and support his wall.

Hamastan in Gaza is a national threat to Pharaoh, a night mare to Mary and her boys.

Personally, I think Hamas by crushing the salafis, and insisting on reconsiliation within the Palestinian national constants proved its wisdom and awareness that palestinians are still occupied and the priority is for national Liberation.

Finally, I have no time to spoil with this barking mad paranoid Mary.

11:01 PM, February 19, 2010

2 comments:

Bilal said...

Wow, this really is taking the piss. Slander, accusations, anti-semitism, so much hate, so little sense in one conversation.

Whats the point?!

Nadia said...

"At the moment, there are no alternative Palestinian parties -- the PFLP, PFLP-GC and DFLP are too small and irrelevant to make any difference to the occupation, and they don't have enough support among ordinary Palestinians. - "

As "evil" Hamas may bring an Islamic state.

The only option is changing the people